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Teacher upset with my child questioning about trans child

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sarahandsage · Today 06:39

Was Called into school today.
My daughter has just started reception in September, it’s a lovely village school, and she’s made lots of friends and settled in really well.

Yesterday I was called into have chat with her teacher.
Was informed my child has a trans girl in her class, and that my child is questioning the teacher every day about this.
That all the other children accept this child was born in the wrong body, yet my daughter is questioning ‘too much’.

I said we encourage curiosity amongst our children, so am
not surprised.

The teacher then said that my child was taken to one side and read a couple of books :
My name is Jazz
and one about a crayon that feels like a different colour.
Which was astonishing to me, because really singling out a child to (as the teacher said ) “Get her on board”, feels very pushy.

My daughter is very kind, and plays with all the children in the class including the trans girl.
The teacher is not concerned with unkindness, but that my daughter is not accepting enough, and she has asked us to reiterate pronouns and that this child is a girl.

This is the first school experience for us, as previously my daughter was at a childminder

It feels very wrong to single out a child, and read books that introduce a concept that we haven’t broached with our children yet.

OP posts:
monymonymony · Today 16:51

Misgendering? My four-year-old, who has just started Reception, still makes mistakes with “her” and “him”. She says “her” instead of “she” and often “misgenders” the dog by saying “him”—not because she thinks the dog is a boy, but because she’s still perfecting her grammar.

On board with what, for goodness’ sake? If the boy has long hair and wears dresses, I’m surprised your daughter even noticed he’s not a girl. This feels like a completely teacher-manufactured problem.

JellySaurus · Today 16:52

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 07:05

I don't really understand why your daughter is questioning the teacher? I have the world's most curious child and after one explanation, my DC would have moved on from this.

Are you bringing your child up in a home that supports and welcomes difference and inclusivity? Of sexuality and race, if not gender differences yet? E.g. sometimes two men love each other and get married, it's not always just a man and a woman. Or yes, Rudi's mum is brown and her dad is white and Rudi is a bit of both, just like the ginger cat and the black cat have kittens that are mixed.

What’s that got to do with pretending that a boy is a girl, lying to them and lying to everybody else about them?

KilkennyCats · Today 16:53

SwirlyGates · Today 16:51

"Sexual interest"? Are you for real?

A child of around FIVE years old is still trying to make sense of the world. What is the difference between cats and dogs? Why is the sky blue? When our pet rabbit died, did she go for ever?

The difference between boys and girls, men and women is fundamental and is important for safeguarding; it is absolutely DC's business to understand the difference. She should not be lied to.

The good old “genital inspections” bollocks still being rolled out. Bless. It’s all they’ve got.

nutmeg7 · Today 17:35

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 07:26

You absolutely don't have to discuss gender. But difference in general needs to be part of every child's world view.

Sexuality. Ethnicity. Culture. Animals. Food.

Difference is the norm.

Boys can have long hair. Girls can have short hair. A child can be brown with a white mum. Some children don't live with their parents, they live with their granny. You have a bedroom on your own. James shares with his brother. Asha is an only child, but Molly has six brothers and sisters.

That’s all great stuff, no one has a problem
with boys can have long hair etc.

But that is very different to telling a child that a boy with long hair is a girl. And that he should be referred to as “she”.

Children of this age and developmental stage are starting to understand sex permanence ie being male or female doesn’t depend on clothes or hair.

So I wouldn’t be surprised at a child asking questions; it’s their job at this age to be making sense of this. Made more difficult if we start telling them that sex isn’t a permanent physical attribute but some sort of state of mind.

GreyskySexRealistsky · Today 17:59

KilkennyCats · Today 16:53

The good old “genital inspections” bollocks still being rolled out. Bless. It’s all they’ve got.

Not surprised to see which "side" brought up the genitals aspect first on this thread. Grim.

GoodGirlFaith · Today 18:01

lifeinthelastlane · Today 14:33

Most children accept what they're told
whether this is ok surely depends on whether they are told "x would like to use a different name from now on as they believe they are transgender", or "x used to be a boy and is now a girl".
As accepting that means accepting a lie.
Editing to add, according to the OP the children are being told the child was "born in the wrong body" which is clearly bunkum

Edited

Thankfully my sons friendship group and the whole school respected Elliot and didn’t feel inclined to go around calling them a liar.

Nothing to see. Just a bunch of people who get along.

Grammarnut · Today 18:17

sarahandsage · Today 06:49

I wanted to speak to the head, but I don’t even know what to say.
The teacher kept using words like misgdender, and “get her on board”.

Tell her you don't believe in gender ideology and your DD is not to be indoctrinated in this rubbish. The transgirl is a boy and should not be encouraged in this nonsense either. Then find another school, I suspect.

Grammarnut · Today 18:22

Allendeavour26 · Today 09:37

i hope the questions are kept to the adults and the classmate isn't getting them every day. If you are unhappy with the school explaining it to your daughter with books, then you need to be discussing it at home to the point she is satisfied as for her to be repeatedly bringing it up daily is just too much for everyone concerned.

I find it interesting that she is having trouble with accepting the child's preffered pronouns, as my 4 year old son and the others I know are very much go with the flow about things at their age and would be satisfied with something like
'Jenny in your class at school likes to be called 'she' as a little girl'.

But you are teaching children not to use the evidence of their eyes, which is a massive safeguarding issue.

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