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School brings in trousers only rule for all pupils - schoolgirls said to be in tears ...

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IwantToRetire · 07/09/2026 17:35

Schoolgirls have been left "in tears" after a controversial new uniform rule was enforced at the start of the school year, with furious parents claiming some pupils were stopped from attending lessons.

The row has erupted after Co-op Academies Trust introduced a trousers-only policy across its secondary schools from September.
Some families have refused to accept the change, with pupils at Co-op Academy Failsworth in Oldham arriving for their first day back on Wednesday wearing skirts.

Parents claim that a number of Year 11 girls were not allowed into class, with other pupils affected when they returned on Thursday.

The policy also applies at Co-op Academy Walkden, Co-op Academy Swinton, Co-op Academy North Manchester, Co-op Academy Manchester and Co-op Academy Belle Vue.

Full article https://www.aol.co.uk/articles/schoolgirls-tears-being-turned-away-100800000.html

Schoolgirls 'in tears' after being 'turned away from lessons' over 'ridiculous' skirt rule - AOL

A number of girls at Co-op Academy Failsworth in Oldham have been told they will not be allowed in lessons until they swap their skirts for trousers

https://www.aol.co.uk/articles/schoolgirls-tears-being-turned-away-100800000.html

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Grammarnut · 07/09/2026 20:28

AllSlugsAreBastards · 07/09/2026 17:39

FGS, I would imagine this is an attempt at 'equality' - of course it never occurs to them that they could let both sexes wear either skirts or trousers.

It's probably to stop upskirting etc. Of course, it would be too much trouble to hammer home to the boys respect for girls and mandatory expulsion if they use phones for this? And report to the police, of course, since it is a sexual assault.
I think secondary schools should be single sex, personally. It does wonders for girls' self-esteem and resilience not to have to deal with boys all day.

QueenietheGreat · 07/09/2026 20:29

@IwantToRetire
In the name of 'equality' lets
Make it so all the boys have to wear kilts.......

TheBers · 07/09/2026 20:30

Loads of women wear trousers everyday. No issue.

Yeah but as an adult female you have choices about how you deal with periods.

As a teen girl I didn’t even have a choice about towels or tampons because we lived miles from shops. Thick tights and a skirt saved my embarrassment a few times when I wasn’t prepared.
I know schools are equipped these days but trousers are still unforgiving of random bleeds.

likelysuspect · 07/09/2026 20:30

Grammarnut · 07/09/2026 20:28

It's probably to stop upskirting etc. Of course, it would be too much trouble to hammer home to the boys respect for girls and mandatory expulsion if they use phones for this? And report to the police, of course, since it is a sexual assault.
I think secondary schools should be single sex, personally. It does wonders for girls' self-esteem and resilience not to have to deal with boys all day.

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Boys respect for girls, or girls respect for themselves?

How do you avoid upskirting when I as a driver can see up their skirts without even trying.

Possibly would be a solution to get skirts with braces already built into the fabric, you cant take the braces off so you cant wear the skirt on its own and of course cannot roll it up.

CurlewKate · 07/09/2026 20:31

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/09/2026 20:27

Seriously, who cares. Better than having your skirt length measured by a male deputy head with a ruler, as happened at my kid's school only three years back. (He wasn't wearing a skirt that day, thank god. What a perv that DH was.)

School uniform is being standardised so it's cheaper. I remember when girls.were banned from.wearing trousers because it didn't look feminine enough, things are so much better now.

So why is it being standardised as default male? And why are girls being told to moderate male behaviour? Get boys to stop upskirting, rather than get girls to change their behaviour.

likelysuspect · 07/09/2026 20:31

likelysuspect · 07/09/2026 20:30

Boys respect for girls, or girls respect for themselves?

How do you avoid upskirting when I as a driver can see up their skirts without even trying.

Possibly would be a solution to get skirts with braces already built into the fabric, you cant take the braces off so you cant wear the skirt on its own and of course cannot roll it up.

Oh pinafore, I couldnt think of the word. Then the length doesnt change.

BCSurvivor · 07/09/2026 20:36

Dmsandfloatydress · 07/09/2026 17:46

Well that would be fine if men and women responded to heat stress i n the same way..... however, due to biology, they dont!! Women sweat less and find it more difficult to cool down naturally than men. Therefore girls will suffer more from wearing trousers in the summer time than boys will, which will impact their learning.

For goodness sake!
I'm willing to bet that at least 95% of these poor heat stressed girls own at least one pair of jeans or leggings which they most definitely wear in the summer, without risk of fainting from the summer heat.

Parker231 · 07/09/2026 20:36

CurlewKate · 07/09/2026 20:31

So why is it being standardised as default male? And why are girls being told to moderate male behaviour? Get boys to stop upskirting, rather than get girls to change their behaviour.

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Why do some girls feel it’s appropriate to wear skirts the length of their knickers and equally why are their parents not ensuring they are dressed in the correct school uniform and supporting schools?

Parker231 · 07/09/2026 20:39

TheBers · 07/09/2026 20:30

Loads of women wear trousers everyday. No issue.

Yeah but as an adult female you have choices about how you deal with periods.

As a teen girl I didn’t even have a choice about towels or tampons because we lived miles from shops. Thick tights and a skirt saved my embarrassment a few times when I wasn’t prepared.
I know schools are equipped these days but trousers are still unforgiving of random bleeds.

DD went to a non uniform school along with millions of girls around the world. She wore jeans or shorts every day from age 4-18 without any issue.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/09/2026 20:39

BadSkiingMum · 07/09/2026 17:52

I think schools should have a choice of long skirts or trousers as a uniform, with tailored knee-length shorts as a summer option for both sexes.

A midi length (mid calf) skirt with an elasticated back and an adjustable wrapover front panel would solve most size/shape problems and probably last a couple of years on most girls.

The skirt-rolling phenomenon is ridiculous and I am not surprised that schools are fed up with it.

Or just buy trousers. It isn’t about looking good, it’s about putting some clothes on and going to school.

Schoolgirls have been rolling hems up since the end of time. First secondary school I was in I didn’t bother, just had knee/calf length skirt. My best friend there constantly tried to roll the waistband and hem up. Second private convent school had an almost ankle length pleated skirt that was nigh on impossible to roll up the waistband but I’m sure some tried.

To be fair maybe I’m old but I don’t recall
seeing arse skimming school skirts on teenage girls when I was at school in early 80s onward (55 now). In fact quite a few teenage girls freaked out about their slim skinny legs believing them to be fat, the thighs. Well I did anyway. And I was a size 4-6 naturally. I mean if teenage girls now have enough body confidence to wear arse skimming skirts then all power to them and call me a prude I do not want to see their knickers in skirts that short. And no, I didn’t wear super short skirts or skirts, though did wear “short” skirts and shorts. My mum would’ve killed me if I’d shown my knickers in clothing.

EdithStourton · 07/09/2026 20:41

Neolara · 07/09/2026 17:38

I think the head teacher should be forced to go shopping for school trousers with 10 different girls who are completely different shapes to see what a nightmare it is to find girls' school trousers that fit

Obviously, not actually. But you get the point.

Wonder if the people bringing in the rule are mostly men?

This,
One of mine was a nightmare to find trousers for. She just wasn't the 'right' shape - tiny waist, broad hips.

SchadenFreude8 · 07/09/2026 20:42

CurlewKate · 07/09/2026 19:48

Women are not being erased. However, they are being asked to conform to traditional male behaviour in a way that men NEVER are. As I said earlier, unisex always means women being allowed to wear/do men’s stuff. Never the other way round.

Your comment about girls/women being asked to conform reminded me of a story earlier this year about a girl's schools that was due to start admitting boys. The uniform included a pink shirt but on the admission of boys, the decision was made to change the uniform shirt to blue.

ArabellaScott · 07/09/2026 20:43

The judging of young girls on here is bloody awful.

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 20:51

TheBers · 07/09/2026 20:30

Loads of women wear trousers everyday. No issue.

Yeah but as an adult female you have choices about how you deal with periods.

As a teen girl I didn’t even have a choice about towels or tampons because we lived miles from shops. Thick tights and a skirt saved my embarrassment a few times when I wasn’t prepared.
I know schools are equipped these days but trousers are still unforgiving of random bleeds.

But if girls just adhered to the rules then we wouldn’t even be discussing this.

if girls are so desperate to wear skirts due to periods or fainting or whatever then I agree with another poster to bring back the pinafore (knee length). Then they can’t be hitched. Pinafore or trousers for all.

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 20:52

CurlewKate · 07/09/2026 20:31

So why is it being standardised as default male? And why are girls being told to moderate male behaviour? Get boys to stop upskirting, rather than get girls to change their behaviour.

Edited

This isn’t about boys.

girls aren’t following uniform rules. Schools sick of wasting time managing it - solution is trousers.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/09/2026 20:53

IwantToRetire · 07/09/2026 18:05

Amazing how on a supposedly feminist forum so many are saying it is because women are the problem that this has had to happen.

Just shows that girls shouldn't have to go to school with boys, as it limits their rights!

Girls shouldn't have to go to school with boys because boys pose a sexual assault risk.

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 20:53

QueenietheGreat · 07/09/2026 20:29

@IwantToRetire
In the name of 'equality' lets
Make it so all the boys have to wear kilts.......

And allow them to hitch them up so high it’s all on show. Wonder what the response from people would be then?!

panolar · 07/09/2026 20:54

ArabellaScott · 07/09/2026 20:43

The judging of young girls on here is bloody awful.

I judge the parents TBH, well those who object to the trousers I mean. That is just feeding the girls with contrariness for something that's eminently sensible for a school uniform in a mixed sex setting.

Remember it is not mandatory to roll your skirt up to your arse, but I really do think the girls who do this are trying to attract attention from the boys. If they wear trousers that won't happen. You can say that is sexist, I don't care, they have a choice and the amount of time spent policing girls crotch visibility is ridiculous.

As for needing twenty different trouser types for different shapes, easily solved with e.g. barrell leg or jog pant versions. When these girls are floating down the High Street on a Saturday afternoon to meet and gaggle with their mates, none of them are wearing crotch revealing skirts, oh no, so they do like trousers after all!

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/09/2026 20:55

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 20:51

But if girls just adhered to the rules then we wouldn’t even be discussing this.

if girls are so desperate to wear skirts due to periods or fainting or whatever then I agree with another poster to bring back the pinafore (knee length). Then they can’t be hitched. Pinafore or trousers for all.

The problem with pinafores is that they make your whole torso too hot.

likelysuspect · 07/09/2026 20:55

panolar · 07/09/2026 20:54

I judge the parents TBH, well those who object to the trousers I mean. That is just feeding the girls with contrariness for something that's eminently sensible for a school uniform in a mixed sex setting.

Remember it is not mandatory to roll your skirt up to your arse, but I really do think the girls who do this are trying to attract attention from the boys. If they wear trousers that won't happen. You can say that is sexist, I don't care, they have a choice and the amount of time spent policing girls crotch visibility is ridiculous.

As for needing twenty different trouser types for different shapes, easily solved with e.g. barrell leg or jog pant versions. When these girls are floating down the High Street on a Saturday afternoon to meet and gaggle with their mates, none of them are wearing crotch revealing skirts, oh no, so they do like trousers after all!

Its not sexist to say girls are showing off their knickers and bums for the boys. Its a fact. Its human nature but its also human responsbility for the grown ups to take charge and say, no you're not doing that. So trousers it is.

likelysuspect · 07/09/2026 20:56

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/09/2026 20:55

The problem with pinafores is that they make your whole torso too hot.

Not if they just have bands/braces to hold the skirt bit up, except they're not detachable so the skirt hangs at the length it is and cant be moved upwards

In any case, yet again, a solution found, but a barrier is put in place.

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 21:01

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/09/2026 20:55

The problem with pinafores is that they make your whole torso too hot.

I’m sure a fabric can be found to solve this 🙄

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/09/2026 21:02

Meanwhile, my all-girl school refused to let the girls wear trousers unless the girl was in a wheelchair until the current decade. The girls campaigned for trousers continuously from before my time until finally the governors gave in. That's a minimum of 35 years fighting for what these girls are rejecting.

I hated it. Chub rub and the "razor cuts or bullying about leg hair" dilemma in the summer, itchy tights that laddered in the winter, having to worry about how I sat all the time, and having ice blocks for feet for most of the year.

I would have loved trousers.

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 21:03

panolar · 07/09/2026 20:54

I judge the parents TBH, well those who object to the trousers I mean. That is just feeding the girls with contrariness for something that's eminently sensible for a school uniform in a mixed sex setting.

Remember it is not mandatory to roll your skirt up to your arse, but I really do think the girls who do this are trying to attract attention from the boys. If they wear trousers that won't happen. You can say that is sexist, I don't care, they have a choice and the amount of time spent policing girls crotch visibility is ridiculous.

As for needing twenty different trouser types for different shapes, easily solved with e.g. barrell leg or jog pant versions. When these girls are floating down the High Street on a Saturday afternoon to meet and gaggle with their mates, none of them are wearing crotch revealing skirts, oh no, so they do like trousers after all!

I had stretchy bootcut style trousers at school. Really comfy and stopped the thigh rub from wearing skirts.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 07/09/2026 21:04

tomatoplants · 07/09/2026 21:01

I’m sure a fabric can be found to solve this 🙄

I'm sure that most parents don't know how to sew a pinafore dress, nor own a sewing machine.