The small community of Millport is to have an LGBT+ pride. Thoughts?

[MintBird]

Millport is on Cumbrae (don't confuse with Cumbria)- a small island on the West of Scotland coast, population not much over 1,000 with a lot of elderly. It's the only town on the island so most people generally just say Millport. As one of the more Southern islands and its small size it is popular for tourists and cycling.

So they are going to have their first ever pride on Sep 12th. Pride events usually happen in cities so it's unusual for one to take place in a small island with a lot of elderly and Christian residents. Some on social media are complaining the "ideology is being pushed on small island communities" whilst others are saying Ayrshire is a decade behind Glasgow in terms of LGBT acceptance with men or boys being targeted even for discreetly holding hands.

https://millportpride.wixsite.com/millport-pride

www.heraldscotland.com/news/26252152.millport-host-first-ever-pride-festival-september/

Did they explain what feeling like a boy/man means?

I love the fact that even a gay man who was born male, feels like a man, and is referred to a he is welcome at the event. It's almost as if they don't know the history of Pride 🙄

Was just about to say the same thing!

The important thing to note is that even though they neber answer this with specifics bevause they know they can't without admitting to the sexism that underpins the whole thing, nevertheless we do know by their support for the whole concept of trans gender identity that whatever they think "feeling like a boy/man" is, we already know what [they think] it isn't, which is simply knowing you have a male body.

So really, their definition of "cis" should be

"So if it says male on your birth certificate, you feel like a boy/man in a deep inner way that is not just because of your physical sex, and people describe you as he/him, then you are cisgender."

Which I think far fewer of the people Genderists lazily assume must be "cis" would sign up for.

This thread incidentally has helped me realise another of Genderism's incoherencies/bait and switches, this time around "cis". I'll start its own thread for that though.

The upcoming pride event in Millport is LGBT+. It is not a gender critical event.

Yes, I assumed so. Would have thought that was obvious from my post. Given everything else I covered I am not sure why that somewhat redundant fact is what you felt you needed to be said in reply, but thanks for the engagement. Next time I need someone who will swerve hard topics in favour of stating the bleedin' obvious I know who to ask.❤

I thought it was inclusive? 🤔

LGBT are welcome, that's made clear. If you mean are homophobes and/or transphobes welcome to attend to cause trouble I would think and hope not.

Trans ideology is homophobic, how does that work, what about, say, gay men who only want relationships with other males?

This is a viewpoint held by gender criticals. Not the LGBT community.

Sure, but remember the LGBT community does not include or speak for all LGB people. It includes and speaks for only those LGB people who see themselves as members of an LGBT community.

You don't get to impose your ideas of identity onto other people.

Many lesbians and gays are lesbian and gay precisely because they want same sex relationships, which is the opposite of 'trans', so your statement is patently untrue.

If a lesbian group who wanted to promote support for same-sex attraction being accepted more widely without inappropriate behaviour from men (e.g. straight men who think it's ok to turn it into how sexy they find it when women kiss), would it be considered:

a) transphobic to include them? Because same-sex attraction means no members of the opposite sex, irrespective of any gender identity

or
b) homophobic to exclude them?

Because being same-sex attracted is a legitimate sexual orientation and to say otherwise is homophobic

It can't be both because telling lesbian women that they need to include biological males (who identify as women) in their definition of lesbianism is going to let in all the heterosexual (opposite-sex attracted), autogynophilic biological males who find it a turn on to think about women kissing. Sadly this seems to be a popular viewpoint amongst autogynophilic males, where women's submissiveness and societal position as sex objects is all part of the fetish.

Is that it? That's your 'gotcha' long game? Too transparent. 1 star, would not recommend.

I have an impression from what's been happening locally to me that some smaller, more rural places have only discovered Pride in the last few years, and are starting to have events just as some of the big commercial city Prides are running into difficulties. I don't know what started this "second wave", but I've been aware of it since COVID.

I don't see a problem. I assume it's local people who are organising the parade and the demand is coming from the local community. Someone can be elderly and/or Christian and LGBTQ+ so these aren't mutually exclusive categories.

As a bi woman, I wish my small town had a Pride parade when I was growing up. There aren't gay bars in rural areas so there are limited opportunities to meet and socialise with other WLW.

That doesn't make sense though, there's no one held by the LGBT community, and plenty of people who could fall under any of those letters are in fact gender critical

So if a lesbian only wants to sleep with women she's not a member of the LGBTQ+ community but if a heterosexual man wants to put on a dress and claim he's a lesbian, he is a member of the LGBTQ+ community. Gotcha.