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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?

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Backwardsbinn · 13/08/2026 20:33

Where do people get the idea that JK Rowling is transphobic from? Where? I’m having this argument with an acquaintance who tells me she’s the most transphobic person on earth but cannot point to one single thing that she’s done or said that’s transphobic. Is this the widest held totally bullshit view ever?

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Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 12:20

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 11:49

Apparently, referencing how safeguarding principles work, in that all male people are excluded, is calling all male people with transgender identities predators. Even though she didn’t say that. Even though logic and safeguarding principles must be transphobic too if that discussion is transphobic.

This is the degree of twisting that has been done over the years by some people, across the internet, to portray JK Rowling as transphobic.

It is the same argument we hear from MRAs. The ‘you say all male people are predators when you say female people need protections and safeguarding’.

TRA don't seem to mind calling all men predators by saying TW are not safe in male prisons, hospital wards and toilets.

They dont want women to vocalise the same concerns.

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:26

@Helleofabore
Why can’t women use the term biological sex? Biologically we are different from men.
(I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as most of you are.)

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:27

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 12:20

TRA don't seem to mind calling all men predators by saying TW are not safe in male prisons, hospital wards and toilets.

They dont want women to vocalise the same concerns.

Yep.

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 12:29

I love the way he can say JKR is delusional with straight faces.

Sir, you have spent the last how many years, dollars, surgery and drugs to live out your delusion.

RedToothBrush · 16/08/2026 12:32

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:20

None of this addresses the inconsistency in the position of claiming gender stereotypes are wrong but trans stereotypes are right because by your logic the evidence of typical behaviours justifies the stereotype.

You can't have it both ways.

Of course you can.

Gender stereotypes are wrong. This doesn't make women able to carry a kayak and get it on the rooftop of a car any easier.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 12:33

RufustheFactualReindeer · 16/08/2026 09:56

This is a thread about jkr and transphobia

if you want to bring up any of your hobbies you should start a new thread

🤣 nicely done Rufus

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:34

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:26

@Helleofabore
Why can’t women use the term biological sex? Biologically we are different from men.
(I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as most of you are.)

Edited

The argument generally revolves around having to bring in the ludicrous claims that to know what sex you are requires extensive testing (not true for the vast majority of the population), and the fact that those who are trying to control the use of the term 'biological sex' want people to focus on .... what is it? Oh yes, 'personality traits and behaviours' as being important to categorise sex classes in humans. Oh.. sorry, I shouldn't forget the 'masculine and feminine traits' too.

It is control of language in an obvious attempt to wedge a group of male people into having a right to use the female language. ie if they can call themselves any female term, they are female and they are no longer boys / men.

RedToothBrush · 16/08/2026 12:34

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:40

Appreciate your honesty which incidentally is a feature not a bug of the New Right where they will only be too happy to shout from the roof tops that they will do everything fair & unfair to get their way including claiming immigrants eat cats & dogs when they know they don't. See JD Vance.

Problem is, the 'normies' as in the silent majority rightly don't care for such unprincipled tactics because they know that they could be next.

So knock yourself out.

Edited

What is a Straw Transwoman Arguement?

The above is an example.

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:37

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:34

The argument generally revolves around having to bring in the ludicrous claims that to know what sex you are requires extensive testing (not true for the vast majority of the population), and the fact that those who are trying to control the use of the term 'biological sex' want people to focus on .... what is it? Oh yes, 'personality traits and behaviours' as being important to categorise sex classes in humans. Oh.. sorry, I shouldn't forget the 'masculine and feminine traits' too.

It is control of language in an obvious attempt to wedge a group of male people into having a right to use the female language. ie if they can call themselves any female term, they are female and they are no longer boys / men.

Thank you so much for answering my question.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 12:39

MissJoGrant · 16/08/2026 05:23

No one is going to meet your definition of transphobic because you just keep saying 'that's not transphobic' to every piece of evidence presented. If you don't understand that a statement like "trans women are men" is transphobic then you're never going to accept anything is transphobia.

You're free to be a transphobe but why not just own it?

A statement that “trans women are men” is reality. You’re the one shouting at the sky here.

RedToothBrush · 16/08/2026 12:39

RedToothBrush · 16/08/2026 12:32

Of course you can.

Gender stereotypes are wrong. This doesn't make women able to carry a kayak and get it on the rooftop of a car any easier.

It doesn't make it easier to go for a piss whilst you are doing outdoor adventures if you are a woman.

I could go on about why sex matters. A lot. And non of it is transphobic and all of it is sex based.

It doesn't limit women but it does make things more complex because the world is designed for men by men without thought to those differences.

The book Invisible Women sums up of a lot of these concepts with example on a practical level.

This INCLUDES the practical issue that men can't become women are still identifiable as men by traumatised women both physically and verbally.

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 12:40

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:26

@Helleofabore
Why can’t women use the term biological sex? Biologically we are different from men.
(I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as most of you are.)

Edited

They want to believe that all women are basically men with external differences.

As soon as woman talk about biology - reproduction, periods, menopause, no one can deny that women are very different to men. And what they have is superficial.

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:50

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:20

None of this addresses the inconsistency in the position of claiming gender stereotypes are wrong but trans stereotypes are right because by your logic the evidence of typical behaviours justifies the stereotype.

You can't have it both ways.

This is not coherent because it is also not accurate.

This is where the misuse of the term 'stereotype' which has been used in that poorly written article becomes more apparent. A statement that refers to safeguarding principles where all male people are excluded from a female single sex provision is not a 'stereotype'. It is a discussion about how to protect female people from male people who are the sex category that causes harm to female people. That 'harm' is not a stereotype.

The fear that a large number of transgender women are just men who want to be able to use women-only spaces unchecked is a harmful stereotype that paints trans people as predators instead of just human beings who want to live their lives.”

Just to repeat, this statement misuses the term 'stereotype'.

The only commonality the basic safeguarding principle has in common with a stereotype is that it is applied to an entire segment of a population. In this case, MALE people. All male people are treated as if they all individually have the same risk profile of causing harm to female people because there is no way of telling which ones are never going to harm female people.

Of course, all that focus on that 'stereotype' term distracts from another very important safeguarding principle, that of safeguarding protections not only being needed to protect female people from physical harm. There are many other harms that female people need safeguarding in place to minimise:

It is also not just about physical risk to safety. There are many types of harms that female people need female single sex provisions to be safeguarded against:

Harms include:
-Rape and sexual assault.
-Violence.
-Sexual abuse that is not rape or sexual assault.
-Sexual abuse that also includes solo sexual acts or using the experience in future sexual acts.
-Any other abuse that may include verbal abuse, intimidation in any way etc, this includes inappropriate questions and comments.
-A male person's presence where female people need privacy and dignity.
-A male person's presence where female people need to feel safe from any male person's presence (over the age of about 8 years old).
-Female people self-excluding knowing that there may be a male person accessing that provision.
-Female people not having the freedom to discuss the issues that cause them distress, concern, or that they need to talk about because a male person is present.
-Female children (and female adults) learning to have no or too low personal boundaries because they have been taught that male people are female people and that they should ignore and overcome feelings of discomfort.

Narrowing the discussion to sex and violence offences does not remove these other harms from consideration for female single sex spaces and vice versa. They are all important.

The discussion of that poorly written article distracts from the wide range of harm that female people can experience with the presence of male people in their female single sex provision. The misuse of the term 'stereotypes' is really just there to allow a moral judgement to be invoked as part of that emotional reasoning and I still believe, emotional coercion, the article writer is attempting to use to convince people that JK Rowling is the problem and is hateful.

TheKeatingFive · 16/08/2026 12:51

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:14

Just to point out, the clip is the latest from Cox and Madison.

And is the one where women are told they are crazy for using the term ‘biological sex’. From a male person who has rejected his biological sex and demands that female people stop considering him as being male. Because apparently a shedload of extreme body modification should make any difference in whether we consider him male or not.

They are trying to get women to suppress all language we have available to voice our concerns.

They know their position is completely unacceptable.

So their tactic is to shut down opposition, impede all clear discussion and evaluation.

Lets all please recognise it for what it is and reject it in the strongest possible terms.

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:53

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 12:40

They want to believe that all women are basically men with external differences.

As soon as woman talk about biology - reproduction, periods, menopause, no one can deny that women are very different to men. And what they have is superficial.

Edited

Thank you, that makes sense. Do you think fundamentally it’s jealousy? Most women can do something that men can’t, (the ability to get pregnant and give birth.)

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:54

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:37

Thank you so much for answering my question.

Ask away.

Many of us will have different answers. And many of us have probably already answered the questions you have so it the answers may be top of mind and ready to go.

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:55

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:54

Ask away.

Many of us will have different answers. And many of us have probably already answered the questions you have so it the answers may be top of mind and ready to go.

Thank you!

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:56

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 12:53

Thank you, that makes sense. Do you think fundamentally it’s jealousy? Most women can do something that men can’t, (the ability to get pregnant and give birth.)

It can be jealousy. It is mainly about control though in my opinion.

If women and girls discuss the very clear and very very well established ways that female and male people interact with society with their bodies, it is seen as a 'gatekeeping' exercise that blocks those male people out of acquiring the description and the 'status' that they demand to have.

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 13:06

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:50

This is not coherent because it is also not accurate.

This is where the misuse of the term 'stereotype' which has been used in that poorly written article becomes more apparent. A statement that refers to safeguarding principles where all male people are excluded from a female single sex provision is not a 'stereotype'. It is a discussion about how to protect female people from male people who are the sex category that causes harm to female people. That 'harm' is not a stereotype.

The fear that a large number of transgender women are just men who want to be able to use women-only spaces unchecked is a harmful stereotype that paints trans people as predators instead of just human beings who want to live their lives.”

Just to repeat, this statement misuses the term 'stereotype'.

The only commonality the basic safeguarding principle has in common with a stereotype is that it is applied to an entire segment of a population. In this case, MALE people. All male people are treated as if they all individually have the same risk profile of causing harm to female people because there is no way of telling which ones are never going to harm female people.

Of course, all that focus on that 'stereotype' term distracts from another very important safeguarding principle, that of safeguarding protections not only being needed to protect female people from physical harm. There are many other harms that female people need safeguarding in place to minimise:

It is also not just about physical risk to safety. There are many types of harms that female people need female single sex provisions to be safeguarded against:

Harms include:
-Rape and sexual assault.
-Violence.
-Sexual abuse that is not rape or sexual assault.
-Sexual abuse that also includes solo sexual acts or using the experience in future sexual acts.
-Any other abuse that may include verbal abuse, intimidation in any way etc, this includes inappropriate questions and comments.
-A male person's presence where female people need privacy and dignity.
-A male person's presence where female people need to feel safe from any male person's presence (over the age of about 8 years old).
-Female people self-excluding knowing that there may be a male person accessing that provision.
-Female people not having the freedom to discuss the issues that cause them distress, concern, or that they need to talk about because a male person is present.
-Female children (and female adults) learning to have no or too low personal boundaries because they have been taught that male people are female people and that they should ignore and overcome feelings of discomfort.

Narrowing the discussion to sex and violence offences does not remove these other harms from consideration for female single sex spaces and vice versa. They are all important.

The discussion of that poorly written article distracts from the wide range of harm that female people can experience with the presence of male people in their female single sex provision. The misuse of the term 'stereotypes' is really just there to allow a moral judgement to be invoked as part of that emotional reasoning and I still believe, emotional coercion, the article writer is attempting to use to convince people that JK Rowling is the problem and is hateful.

Just to be very clear.

This misuse of the term 'stereotype' to dismiss safeguarding principles, is all part of the attempt to control the language to be able to emotionally manipulate. It is to manipulate those who have not given the issues any depth of consideration or those who hold very tightly onto that emotional reasoning that is not supported by evidence or even logic.

By portraying safeguarding principles as 'stereotypes', it is likely to evoke an emotional reaction in the reader's mind that that safeguarding principle must be immoral and being forced onto a group who have identified themselves needing to break free of all 'stereotypes' to be their true selves. It is a rather lazy tactic.

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 13:10

Most people understand safeguarding when it comes to age, but seem confused when applied to sex.

If an adult wanted to take an GCSE, its obviously inappropriate for them to enrol in a school. Or if a 14 year old wanted to join the cubs.

No-one is saying that all adults or 14 years olds are predators, no one takes it that way. They use adult colleges or an age appropriate club.

6ate9 · 16/08/2026 13:10

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 12:56

It can be jealousy. It is mainly about control though in my opinion.

If women and girls discuss the very clear and very very well established ways that female and male people interact with society with their bodies, it is seen as a 'gatekeeping' exercise that blocks those male people out of acquiring the description and the 'status' that they demand to have.

Thank you, a lot of men do like control! It’s scary.

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 13:10

TheKeatingFive · 16/08/2026 12:51

They are trying to get women to suppress all language we have available to voice our concerns.

They know their position is completely unacceptable.

So their tactic is to shut down opposition, impede all clear discussion and evaluation.

Lets all please recognise it for what it is and reject it in the strongest possible terms.

yep.

If they control the language that female people can use, it suppresses the voices of female people who express concerns. It shames any female person who might have expressed concerns because they then think they are hateful bigots. Or... they will be accused of being 'far right'. It also removes the language that would give clarity and accuracy.

How often do we see these attacks on commonly used language by this group who demand that their subjective reality is not only based on material reality but is then treated as universal material reality?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 13:12

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 13:06

Just to be very clear.

This misuse of the term 'stereotype' to dismiss safeguarding principles, is all part of the attempt to control the language to be able to emotionally manipulate. It is to manipulate those who have not given the issues any depth of consideration or those who hold very tightly onto that emotional reasoning that is not supported by evidence or even logic.

By portraying safeguarding principles as 'stereotypes', it is likely to evoke an emotional reaction in the reader's mind that that safeguarding principle must be immoral and being forced onto a group who have identified themselves needing to break free of all 'stereotypes' to be their true selves. It is a rather lazy tactic.

Exactly, and it also allows this specific poster to pivot to stereotypes about behaviour expectations which harm women and girls, in this spurious conflation.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 13:13

“I thought you feminists didn’t like sexist stereotypes? You can’t have it both ways

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 13:13

I'm still waiting for something written by JKR that matches Trump's "Mexicans are rapists" comment.

Did anyone find anything?

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