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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?

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Backwardsbinn · 13/08/2026 20:33

Where do people get the idea that JK Rowling is transphobic from? Where? I’m having this argument with an acquaintance who tells me she’s the most transphobic person on earth but cannot point to one single thing that she’s done or said that’s transphobic. Is this the widest held totally bullshit view ever?

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MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:37

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:33

If you can't see the bleedin' obvious then I can't help you.

Actually you just can't find anything that JKR has written that parallels what Trump wrote.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:38

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:36

We've done this. Its not possible to explain some concepts to those with 'limitations' in understanding.

Sure. Believe me, most of us have your number by now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:38

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:37

Actually you just can't find anything that JKR has written that parallels what Trump wrote.

Who expected anything else.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:43

Men commit 98% of sex crime. It’s a fairly well founded “stereotype”.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:47

dinodart · 16/08/2026 02:35

because you are questioning the stereotypes. but is it wrong?

we have violent, rapist men in women's prisons claiming to be trans...

I mean, JKR isn't even spreading a stereotype. She's just talking about how predatory awful men will label themselves as trans. and trans ideology is allowing it... maybe fix the ideology and get men out of women's prisons, and there won't be people spreading the idea of these harmful "stereotypes"

Uh huh just like Trump was about Mexicans?

Prisons have what's called individual 'risk assessment' policy. They are responsible for housing prisoners in manner that doesn't compromise safety & they can get sued if they don't. IE low security v high security. Non dangerous V dangerous etc. In other words its up to the prison to consider all relevant risks when assessing prisoners.

Same with immigration in terms of risk assessment. So there's no need to smear a whole group because some may pose a risk because we as a society have advanced to a point where we can mitigate risks by policy procedures rather than stereotyping. That's how a civilised society works.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:43

Men commit 98% of sex crime. It’s a fairly well founded “stereotype”.

You could say the same about sex typical behaviours. That's why they are 'typical'.

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:49

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:38

Who expected anything else.

I think that @Northernlightsss genuinely believes that JKR writes things about trans people that Trump did about mexicans. I just took a quick trawl through JKR's Twitter feed back to July, and I don't see anything there disparaging or untrue about trans people as a group at all.

There's a lot of comment about the behaviour of trans activists focusing on their activities, but that seems fair and doesn't represent any opinion of trans people in general.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:49

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:37

Actually you just can't find anything that JKR has written that parallels what Trump wrote.

Yes dear.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:51

dinodart · 16/08/2026 02:36

doesn't have to be what? correct??? then how can we trust that any self-identified transwoman is literally a woman?

They are a woman according to them just like self identified jew, Christian, Muslim etc is.

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:52

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:47

Uh huh just like Trump was about Mexicans?

Prisons have what's called individual 'risk assessment' policy. They are responsible for housing prisoners in manner that doesn't compromise safety & they can get sued if they don't. IE low security v high security. Non dangerous V dangerous etc. In other words its up to the prison to consider all relevant risks when assessing prisoners.

Same with immigration in terms of risk assessment. So there's no need to smear a whole group because some may pose a risk because we as a society have advanced to a point where we can mitigate risks by policy procedures rather than stereotyping. That's how a civilised society works.

we as a society have advanced to a point where we can mitigate risks by policy procedures rather than stereotyping. That's how a civilised society works.
Let me be the first to point out that as a society we have only recently advanced to the point where the policy procedure we have to mitigate the risks to women in prison is now no longer to put men in with them.

Ditto women's toilets, and other facilities.

Now we can talk about the policy procedures we have put in place for dignity and propriety.

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:53

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:49

Yes dear.

Well, go on then. If it's so simple, it really won't take you long to come up with some exmples. I'm agog to see the parallel to Trump's "They're rapists" that JKR said.

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 02:54

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:20

This is conflating two separate issues: Identity & competing rights that result from that where there are already exceptions in law for special circumstances that require rights a balancing test depending on the circumstances & cultural expectations.

Can you give examples?

Im talking about the provision of single sex services? How do you think it would be possible to provide services for women and then include men with a subjective/inner truth?

How could either the womens or mens needs be met?

I dont agree with the idea, but I can see how people would argue men who look like women should use the women services, or men who have removed their penis, or men who have a GRC.

But you seem to be suggesting that if a man subjectively wants to be there he may in certain situations. Which situations are you imagining?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:57

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:48

You could say the same about sex typical behaviours. That's why they are 'typical'.

Again, which behaviours, aside from sex crime which is clearly correlated with sex, are “sex typical”, exactly? It’s funny that you’re so coy in articulating your worldview.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:59

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 02:49

I think that @Northernlightsss genuinely believes that JKR writes things about trans people that Trump did about mexicans. I just took a quick trawl through JKR's Twitter feed back to July, and I don't see anything there disparaging or untrue about trans people as a group at all.

There's a lot of comment about the behaviour of trans activists focusing on their activities, but that seems fair and doesn't represent any opinion of trans people in general.

I think that poster is a deeply disingenuous individual.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:01

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 02:54

Can you give examples?

Im talking about the provision of single sex services? How do you think it would be possible to provide services for women and then include men with a subjective/inner truth?

How could either the womens or mens needs be met?

I dont agree with the idea, but I can see how people would argue men who look like women should use the women services, or men who have removed their penis, or men who have a GRC.

But you seem to be suggesting that if a man subjectively wants to be there he may in certain situations. Which situations are you imagining?

Many countries in Europe, Scandinavia, Asia, Canada & Australian & half US states don't have bathroom bans on trans women or any ground swell interest in changing them.

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 03:03

Is the argument that prison risk assessment is so good, it doesn't need to be divided by sex, but it should be divided by 'gender'.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:03

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:57

Again, which behaviours, aside from sex crime which is clearly correlated with sex, are “sex typical”, exactly? It’s funny that you’re so coy in articulating your worldview.

You are welcome to use google or if that's too hard start a thread on typical sexed behaviours & I will provided the evidence for you there. This thread is about transphobia.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 03:04

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 02:20

This is conflating two separate issues: Identity & competing rights that result from that where there are already exceptions in law for special circumstances that require rights a balancing test depending on the circumstances & cultural expectations.

They don’t require a “balancing test” if they are single sex facilities. You appear to be quoting Stonewall Law circa 2018. Single sex spaces in this country are based on biological sex, whatever they are elsewhere.

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 03:05

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:01

Many countries in Europe, Scandinavia, Asia, Canada & Australian & half US states don't have bathroom bans on trans women or any ground swell interest in changing them.

Yet.

Helleofabore · 16/08/2026 03:05

Northernlightsss · 15/08/2026 23:52

Thank you. Finally someone with the courage to engage substantively with the argument of my comment.

The issue I have is inconsistency. One can't claim its any more a harmful stereotype to reduce the women to a set of fixed typical behaviours than it is to reducing trans people to a 'tomboy' 'phase' or predator.

You claim the writer doesn’t address that materially real fact proven of these stereotypes but you could say exactly the same about the typical behaviours of women. Just because instances of the stereotypical behaviour exist in individuals doesn't mean it's reflective of the group. And that is the issue here: Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours. And no amount of disclaimers about not believing trans people are not dangerous is going to alter the fact JKR is speaking out of both sides of her mouth.

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Just because instances of the stereotypical behaviour exist in individuals doesn't mean it's reflective of the group. And that is the issue here: Misrepresentation of the group as delusional & predatory just like it is to misrepresent women as a fixed set of behaviours. And no amount of disclaimers about not believing trans people are not dangerous is going to alter the fact JKR is speaking out of both sides of her mouth.

Except for the purpose of safeguarding principles where provisions are segregated by sex, every member of the sex class is treated equally.

If the risk of one group of people, (male
people), causing harm to the other group of people (female people), have been found to be higher than the risk between the risk associated within other members of the group to be protected (female people) then all that high group are treated the same way. That is the basis for legitimate discrimination.

All male people are treated as if they are predatory and are excluded from female single sex provisions. Because historically male people as a group have shown they have a higher risk profile of causing harm to female people. The statistics have consistently shown that male people with transgender identities in the UK do not have the same risk profile as a sub-group as female people in the general population of the UK. The sub group’s risk profile fits within the range of male risk.

The point that JK Rowling is referring to is that general safeguarding principle. That all male people have to be treated as the same risk.

As she points out, no sub group of male person can be given special treatment over the age of about 8-10 years old for safeguarding principles to work as they should. Because if you allow one male person into the provision, by that action, you have to allow them all in. There is no case by case access solution for provision use that allows some group members access and excludes others that is workable. Therefore no special sub groups should be allowed access outside of the exception for children.

Again, the writer seems to ignore basic safeguarding principles and instead uses the quote to make a bad faith interpretation about what JK Rowling wrote.

They also then used a false and dishonest generalisation to attempt to portray a group of male people as presenting no risk to female people. The writer accuses JK Rowling of using an absolutist tactic of accusing all male people with a transgender identity of being predators, while the writer does the same thing in the other direction.

They do this by not acknowledging that there are some male people who are predators. Even among those with transgender identities. The writer is dishonestly attempting to portray a group of male people as being no risk at all to female people as a group or potentially as individuals, which is so obviously not true and easily disproven.

By demonising JK Rowling for pointing out how safeguarding works effectively the way they have, the writer is also then demonising any other person who makes the same point.

It is not transphobic to discuss safeguarding principles, how they work, how they have been developed and who is included the group that is excluded and why. It is harmful to female people though to demonise any female person having that discussion. Obviously, anything that potentially reduces the protection available to female people is harmful to female people.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 03:05

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:03

You are welcome to use google or if that's too hard start a thread on typical sexed behaviours & I will provided the evidence for you there. This thread is about transphobia.

Well no I won’t be starting a thread about your unevidenced claim 😂 you can back it up.

MyAmpleSheep · 16/08/2026 03:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 02:59

I think that poster is a deeply disingenuous individual.

I think this poster is arguing that because JKR is transphobic, the things that JKR writes are equivalent to Trump's "Mexicans are rapists", and therefore JKR is transphobic.

As I said, from a quick look at her X feed, JKR doesn't spend much time writing about trans people as a group at all; most of her posts on trans issues are about the behaviours and campaigning activities of trans activists.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 03:09

Again, it’s like a court, you don’t back up your claims and that’s fine, whatever, but inferences will be drawn about the reliability of those claims and your inability to make a convincing case.

Northernlightsss · 16/08/2026 03:10

Pingponghavoc · 16/08/2026 03:03

Is the argument that prison risk assessment is so good, it doesn't need to be divided by sex, but it should be divided by 'gender'.

Look, prisons like all other human pursuits aren't infallible so I can understand that because they are dealing with criminals who can slip between the security cracks might require separate housing for trans women from women to be on the safe side.

But trans women with men? No. That is a proven risk so gender does come into it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2026 03:11

Now go and say that on Reddit. What you have said would be seen as “transphobia” there.

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