Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?

[Backwardsbinn]

Where do people get the idea that JK Rowling is transphobic from? Where? I’m having this argument with an acquaintance who tells me she’s the most transphobic person on earth but cannot point to one single thing that she’s done or said that’s transphobic. Is this the widest held totally bullshit view ever?

you see ‘punching down’ isn’t being specific, is it. And why is it ‘punching down’ to say trans women are men (when they are) and not ‘punching up’ when these men want to take away women’s single sex spaces and the GENUINELY VULNERABLE here - the biological women - are those that JKR is sticking up for?

What exactly did she say?

Was it about these men feeling entitled to use women's spaces? Because that's not 'transphobic' that's upholding women's legal rights.

Isnt she right to complain about men breaking the law?

Ok yeah that's v lame. I have expressed condemnation of physical violent attacks on various utter bastards who I firmly disagree with because violent attacks are not the way to prove your ethical position either way. If there's nothing more to it than this then @Tzika's assertion remains unsupported.

@MaRhodes is this the tweet you're referring to

It can't be surely, hopefully @MaRhodes will be able to explain exactly what's wrong with that comment if it is.

As I understand it she was being told off because

men pretending to be women is fine

but men pretending to be men who pretend to be women is beyond the pale and not something she should highlight the absurdity of

or something

I have to admit, my fascination with the GC trans obsession is growing. And also, I think the other POV needs to be voiced. Otherwise the fallacy that 'everyone knows' (insert any GC belief) is true has no counter-point.

There aren’t many GC points that can’t be proven with verifiable evidence, whereas the entire WPATH trans healthcare ‘best practice’ was recently admitted by WPATH to be ‘just their opinion’. GCs tend to deal in truth. TRAs don’t.

That’s great, I guess you can make a convincing argument for why people should believe a group of men should be considered women, then, @Slightyamusedandsilly?

They absolutely hate men pretending to be men pretending to be women, only slightly less than they hate women pretending to be men pretending to be women.

But what do you think is the other point of view?

Do you think that humans can change sex?

Do you think that women's rights to single sex spaces should be dismantled?

My POV currently is that I'm interested in the GC obsession with trans.

I think that sums it up.
She centres women. Some men object.

Good for you. Enjoy!

well everyone needs a hobby

You never answered the questions @TheKeatingFive asked you? Are you able to answer them or are they too difficult?

We wouldn't be 'obsessed' by trans if:
it hadn't come out of almost nowhere
If it didn't disportionately impact vulnerable teens and young people
It didn't bugger young people's bodies up forever, in some cases leaving them infertile or unable to orgasm etc
we didn't have intact men wanting to be in women's refuges (when they are stronger than we are and can rape us)
we didn't have intact men wanting to be in women's prisons (when they are stronger than we are and can rape us)
we didn't have intact men wanting to be in women's toilets and changing rooms (when they are stronger than we are and can rape us)
we didn't have men wanting to be in women's sports (when they are stronger than we are and will take medals, awards and scholarships from deserving and highly talented women)
if so many institutions hadn't rolled over to noisy men and removed women's hard-one single-sex spaces etc
we hadn't had about a decade of NO DEBATE TERFS SHOULD DIE IN A GREASE FIRE when we tried to express our concerns

We don't like it and we're just trying to get back to where we were about 15 years ago.

Many of us resent the massive waste of our energy and money, and the abuse women suffer, and the suffering of women who have lost jobs and friends, just so we can live once again in a society that understands that, the small proportion of people with DSDs aside (all of whom are either men or women anyway), that there are male people built to produce small gametes and female people built to produce large gametes and gestate infants.

HTH.

That's very sad. I have just learned that the teenage son of an acquaintance has just changed name and pronouns - not the real names, but on the lines of Thomas has become Tammy and his mum is immediately referring to him as she. This lad, who could hardly look more male, ticks all the boxes, sadly - he's on the spectrum, he's very socially awkward and he's adopted. Poor kid.

I bloody LOLd reading that! You clever clever thing you 😆

Of course it's not. It's not trans-exclusionary, it's male-exclusionary, for excellent therapeutic reasons. We all know what to think about any males who would try to get into a female-only rape counselling service. It's not transphobic to point out that they are behaving badly and represent a threat to the service users and staff. If it happens that all of those males are trans-identifying, so be it.

Great post. Extra kudos for using the word 'buffoon'.

Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?

“I myself have never been able to find out precisely what being transphobic is: I only know that people call me a transphobe whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat”

With apologies to Rebecca West

Utter nonsense.

That's horribly plausible.

Calling transgender women "men pretending to be women" is transphobic by default