First time ladies pond, Hampstead

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Went for the first time to the ladies pond in hampstead this week and had a blast. Definitely want to go back. I got naked in the open showers like others as i wanted to get the algae off of me. I’m aware of their current regulations but feel a bit alarmed by this.

Is it really the case that a man who identifies as a woman could come in at any point and start showering naked with his penis out and the staff would consider this to be fine? I’m a survivor of sexual abuse and this feels really alarming to me and puts me on edge about going. Are the other women who get naked there fine with this?

i also heard that women who identify as men are not allowed to swim topless in the men’s pond so it feels like double standards?

i feel really sad about it because it feels like it would be a lovely space to be nude and relax and feel free and safe around other women but now i just feel on edge that there could be a man around.

Oh of course you did. And I won the lottery, then there was a flash flood and the lottery card got soaked and then I couldn’t collect my winnings.
Also I saw Tom Cruise walking down the street that day.

Doesn’t help one tiny bit, as it’s bollocks. Much like the ones they bring to the ladies’s pond.

What kind of weird TRA are you, that you don't even know your basics??

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The City of London has its policies 100% correct as does its members who voted on a poll which overwhelmingly stated that trans women are welcome at the pools and trans men. Shouting about it doesn’t change that fact, the hostile environment against transgender people is running out of steam in the UK and the public are waking up to the anti-rights machines in the amnesty report.

Hopefully this website is submitted at some point to a regulator as the equivalent of a stormfront for transphobes spreading misinformation and manifesting hate on trans people.

Apparently, @MashaPav lives in Opposite World. That explains a lot.

'The City of London has its policies 100% correct'

The City of London are flouting the law. Hopefully Sex Matters will have this rectified in the High Court in due course.

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person

Oh, fantastic. Don't ever change, Masha. 😊

Do feel free to report us to the Mothers Regulator.

I'm a bit behind on my CPD, tbh. Need a refresher on 'tantrum management'.

Of course some people claim that women who are victims of sexual assault are lying. We know this song.

When I was a teenager, a man who identified as a woman, wearing wig, lipstick and frock, followed me into the ladies loo, and when I came out the stall he was masturbating at the sink.

How many women are you going to say are lying about their history of abuse at the hands of men?

It could be a long day.

FFS. Grim. I’m sorry.

Do you know where the “We believe you” campaign supporting rape victims started, Masha?

https://www.mumsnet.com/articles/we-believe-you-campaign-rape-myths-busted

Not sure where you're getting your information but this long and detailed yougov article suggests otherwise.

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/51545-where-does-the-british-public-stand-on-transgender-rights-in-202425

She didn’t say “incorrect pond”. She said “incorrect sex pond”. If you’re going to quote people, do it accurately. Trans-identifying men using the women’s pond are using the incorrect sex pond.

We're told that nothing bad happens, ever. And then when we explain the bad thing that happened, we're accused of lying.
If you simply dismiss all the evidence of bad stuff, and believe all the evidence of good stuff, you'll get the outcome you want, but there's then absolutely no point in having a discussion on a topic. And, obviously, you'll end up with a bad result, because it's based on how you fantasise about the world being rather than on what the world is actually like.
Sort of like Maoist China - the government insisted that it it was heaven on earth and naysayers were suppressed, while in the real world millions starved to death.
Having been punched by a transwoman wearing women's clothes in the middle of the night in a youth hostel single sex dorm (sadly they got rid of the concept more recently, quietly re-naming them single gender dorms, but at that time transwomen who didn't use subterfuge were (I was told) offered a single room), I can tell anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of being punched, hard, by a man that men are far, far stronger than women. He threw all my stuff out of the dorm too, and I had to wake up the hostel manager, who put me in another room and contacted the police.

Please no sex ponds! Shades of hot tub AIBUs past 😂

I don’t think anyone is shouting. Let’s come back in a year’s time and see what the admissions policy for the ponds is at that time.

The poor man’s stenographer.

Oi!
Masha may have many faults but I for one am here to say thank you Masha for your AI hallucinated services to MN names - I was delighted when I saw my new one hadn't been taken by anyone else.

<twirls in spinny skirt>

I was there last week and I saw a man. He had stubble and body hair. Muscular, clearly male. Wearing swimming trunks and a sports bra top as there is a policy of no nipples on show. Seems unlikely that he’d have taken in shorts off, who knows I didn’t see him get out.

Because they don't get a validation kick from doing that. There's much to be said about the thrill from transgression of boundaries too.

Running out of steam in your dreams. Stonewall law is rightly being exposed as the fiction it always was, thanks to the SC clarification. As for anti-rights. You have to wonder why Amnesty UK referred itself to the Charity Commission. You're the only one spreading misinformation. TRAs told us to educate ourselves. And we did.