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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

First time ladies pond, Hampstead

42 replies

PanicButton99 · Yesterday 17:34

Went for the first time to the ladies pond in hampstead this week and had a blast. Definitely want to go back. I got naked in the open showers like others as i wanted to get the algae off of me. I’m aware of their current regulations but feel a bit alarmed by this.

Is it really the case that a man who identifies as a woman could come in at any point and start showering naked with his penis out and the staff would consider this to be fine? I’m a survivor of sexual abuse and this feels really alarming to me and puts me on edge about going. Are the other women who get naked there fine with this?

i also heard that women who identify as men are not allowed to swim topless in the men’s pond so it feels like double standards?

i feel really sad about it because it feels like it would be a lovely space to be nude and relax and feel free and safe around other women but now i just feel on edge that there could be a man around.

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raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:22

What do you imagine you can “explain” to anyone here? Can you explain why we should see a group of men as women? On what grounds? Because they say so?

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A different opinion to yours which a bunch of transphobic friends like you are clearly are not ready for. Get out in the real world, creeps have always been around and using a trans girl who just wants to be comfortable (for example) as a red herring is just sad. I despise opportunistic creepy men as much as the next women but there are bigger fights- IE incels running around, domestic abuse

MyAmpleSheep · Yesterday 22:45

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:44

A different opinion to yours which a bunch of transphobic friends like you are clearly are not ready for. Get out in the real world, creeps have always been around and using a trans girl who just wants to be comfortable (for example) as a red herring is just sad. I despise opportunistic creepy men as much as the next women but there are bigger fights- IE incels running around, domestic abuse

I despise opportunistic creepy men as much as the next women

Apparently not.

socialdilemmawhattodo · Yesterday 22:46

Justme56 · Yesterday 17:54

They are obviously aware that it could happen as they are planning to spend money on creating new facilities. Does seem a bit odd if it’s a non issue that they would be prepared to find £1 million to do it.

I hadn't heard about that. Sounds more promising. I was one of the original respondents a few years ago on COLC biased survey. Sure my reply was thrown out as I had dared to type a few (actually many) words. I must try to catch up more with the various law cases. A few months behind. Is Lord now actually starting to comply with the law?

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 22:47

ElenOfTheWays · Yesterday 22:19

I think she meant keyboard warriors but forgot the term.

I guess its the feminised version of the insult, isn't it.

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:52

ElenOfTheWays · Yesterday 22:19

I think she meant keyboard warriors but forgot the term.

Nope i did not, touchtyping does project a certain boomer middle class energy to people my age 🥰

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 22:55

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:52

Nope i did not, touchtyping does project a certain boomer middle class energy to people my age 🥰

And there's the ageism.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 22:55

Sexism and ageism are super progressive ways to try to insult people.

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:58

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 22:55

Sexism and ageism are super progressive ways to try to insult people.

Yep, its all this group seems to do- the isms arnt nice right.

MyAmpleSheep · Yesterday 22:58

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 22:55

Sexism and ageism are super progressive ways to try to insult people.

But if that's all you've got...

BirdLandedonmyHead · Yesterday 23:00

Ahh the good old paradox

Apparently it will be devestating to trans women to stop them using a service, or joining a club etc...
But apparently barely any use those services so how can they be causing distress to others.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 23:02

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:58

Yep, its all this group seems to do- the isms arnt nice right.

Exactly, so why are you trying to insult people?

nutmeg7 · Yesterday 23:15

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:58

Yep, its all this group seems to do- the isms arnt nice right.

”arnt” ?

And you are mocking people who can “touch type.”
Do you even know what touch typing means?
Why is this particular skill something to be mocked? Because you haven’t got the attention span and focus to learn to do it?

socialdilemmawhattodo · Yesterday 23:25

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:44

A different opinion to yours which a bunch of transphobic friends like you are clearly are not ready for. Get out in the real world, creeps have always been around and using a trans girl who just wants to be comfortable (for example) as a red herring is just sad. I despise opportunistic creepy men as much as the next women but there are bigger fights- IE incels running around, domestic abuse

So what do you mean by "trans girl"? A boy who identifies as a girl, so a trans identified boy. Or a male who identifies as a woman, but you and/or they are further identifying them as "a girl", so a trans identifed man. Clarification needed. Thanks.

PanicButton99 · Yesterday 23:35

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:44

A different opinion to yours which a bunch of transphobic friends like you are clearly are not ready for. Get out in the real world, creeps have always been around and using a trans girl who just wants to be comfortable (for example) as a red herring is just sad. I despise opportunistic creepy men as much as the next women but there are bigger fights- IE incels running around, domestic abuse

And if the ‘trans girl’ is a convicted rapist should they still be allowed to use this space?

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ElenOfTheWays · Yesterday 23:36

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:52

Nope i did not, touchtyping does project a certain boomer middle class energy to people my age 🥰

I'm not a Boomer or middle class and I can touch type - 120wpm at my peak. Fastest fingers in the west 😂
It's a skill. Unlike being able to tell what sex someone is which everyone can do even if they pretend they can't.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 23:43

raidthesockdrawer · Yesterday 22:44

A different opinion to yours which a bunch of transphobic friends like you are clearly are not ready for. Get out in the real world, creeps have always been around and using a trans girl who just wants to be comfortable (for example) as a red herring is just sad. I despise opportunistic creepy men as much as the next women but there are bigger fights- IE incels running around, domestic abuse

There are plenty of “opportunistic creepy men” who call themselves “trans girls”. Stop being so gullible.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 23:48

Calling a group of men “girls” is just grim. What do you imagine you sound like.

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