What TRAs or 'gender' advocates and 'gender critical' feminists agree on.

[WrongKindOfFeminist]

Thought it might be useful to find points of commonality.

Ever the optimist! 😊

1. Gender stereotypes can be restrictive and limiting.

I refuse to dignify that with a response.

The language in the questions has changed as well, hasn't it? Making it much clearer that a "transwoman" is biologically male.

It was language obfuscation and No Debate that let this madness get as far as it did. And all the "I'll inform on her before they come for me." Very Cultural Revolution.

When the JL Partners/Sex Matters poll came out I remember being surprised at how many people didn't even think a gender neutral option should be offered and that everyone should just use the facilities allocated for their sex.

It seems that those of us who are happy to advocate for a gender neutral space in addition to single-sex are more supportive of trans-identifying people than one-third of the general public. The TRAs should be thanking us really!

😢

That's always been the case.

For years, TRAs have been viciously attacking the gender non conforming women and feminists who were previously their supporters and allies.

I am quite confused what the poster believes will be the basis of a more accurate result if the question asked about ‘cis gender’ women? In my mind, that is just not believable. If anything, that really does signal to female people that they are answering a survey for an ideologically driven collection agency.

Plus the fact that is is confusing to both those who don’t understand the terminology and those who do understand with a depth of knowledge that it means some male people with DSDs are considered cis women by some activists so this makes the use of it in questionnaires inappropriate for clear results.

Any manager seeing a project using a question about ‘cis’ going out to the general population (including university) should be demanding clear and accurate common use language. It would be an absurd argument to defend use of the term cis as being commonly understood by the general public.

This is what I notice everytime I look at the data.

Ah, the Manipulative Kitty gif! ❤

(actually, I've always found that one to be a bit creepy- all the cats I've had would normally fix you with a haughty, threatening glare, rather than burst into tears, but then I've never had a cat who could use a smartphone. No buttons to walk on) 😆

ed grammar much?

I suppose it depends on what kind of circles you frequent. I imagine that for some people, "cis" is used regularly, so they wouldn't notice it as "leading language.". Maybe.

If Kitty could roll her eyes at that gif, she would.

Now that's the look I am familiar with! 😁

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Happy number crunching.

Excellent bigly deployment.

Can anyone, pretty please, explain to me why
"English
Cymraeg
Breadcrumb"
appears in the Lexicon Chat-thing quote?

Is this sort of random word usual in such searches?

I'm afraid I have no idea, however, you can ask when @Lexibletheflexible returns with all that research, because I think it was one of Flex's posts that had that information, if I remember correctly.

Any time now...

It was, and that is why I was asking the thread in general, because I suspected I wouldn't get an answer from the flexicon.

It's just so random! Breadcrumb! Disposition! Whisper! Glass!

Pretty sure it's just metadata about the research, or the webpage Flex got it from, or something. Just internet stuff basically.

TRA's kids always seem to take so long to put to bed.

Yes I think “breadcrumbs” are something to do with the structure of a website and its search facilities, no?

According to the Cambridge dictionary, they are "the history of exactly how you got to a particular website, web page, etc. on the internet, that is recorded and stored on your computer." ... Kinda spooky when you think about it 😅

I thought breadcrumbs were like this, showing the route to a page on the website.

Thanks to all, and I am sorry I derailed.

Essentially it means Lexythingy's computer is probably full of things spying on everything that is on it? Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

So I asked my ISP and got the reply 'On some sites the hierarchy of pages that led to a specific location, e.g. UK, cases, Court of Appeal, 2026, is referred to as a "breadcrumb trail", the idea being that you can find your way back out thereby. That was probably on the site that ChatGPT stole.'

And that explains why it is called that.

Yes that’s what I meant, didn’t articulate it very well.

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/2081048279240847863?s=46

Another sign for those who wish to believe that both sides are as bad as each other and that feminists are just as bad as the male people who demand that their subjective reality that is not reflective of material reality is treated as being materially real.

For those without twitter, Menno videoed this sign at Pride

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/2081048279240847863?s=46

‘90% of pigs in the UK are gassed to death, but terfs still exist’.

Then there is this one complete with throat slitting action.

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/2081027090921472480?s=20

Notice that the person doing the slitting the throat action is masked up and the people that the masked activist has recognised have no masks and and are not acting in any way intimidating.... I believe this was at Pride, which both the people the activist has done the slitting of the throat symbol at are there as part of the LGB umbrella.

But... sure... 'both sides'.

There really is no fucking symmetry.