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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Vulva Only Spaces

129 replies

Lurkingandlearning · Yesterday 19:41

Is this what we need to be asking for now?

That wouldn't exclude people who had transitioned. But it would exclude people who have a penis. Surely when people had transitioned and have a vulva instead of a penis they would feel exactly the same way, as women.

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ElenOfTheWays · Today 00:50

Lurkingandlearning · Yesterday 20:21

I agree with all of that. And I'm angry that it seems to me that women are now being marginalised and expected to accept things that we don't want in favour of people who say they want to be women. If they want to be women, support women.

The point of my post was to ask if using the wording vulva only spaces would at least allow us to continue to have, or claw back, the right to have some places where there is no possibility of exposure to male genitalia.

We already have that right. In law. SCJ - sex means biological sex
Are Trans Identified Men still arguing about it? Yes. But the law is clear.
No men in women's single sex spaces. Regardless of surgery, certificates and womanly feels.

RogueFemale · Today 00:59

Lurkingandlearning · Yesterday 21:48

I am not disagreeing with you. The point of my post was to find a way, in light of how women are being marginalised, to make it very clear that women should have women spaces. We shouldn't have to be so specific but if using the word vulva does mean penises are barred, then maybe that is the way to go.

The law is already clear. No men in women's single sex spaces. That includes men who've had their cocks cut off (though most of them haven't).

Helleofabore · Today 01:28

Lurkingandlearning · Yesterday 21:48

I am not disagreeing with you. The point of my post was to find a way, in light of how women are being marginalised, to make it very clear that women should have women spaces. We shouldn't have to be so specific but if using the word vulva does mean penises are barred, then maybe that is the way to go.

Your posts are quite confusing and it is you that seems to be missing the logic and then deciding to call people fuckwits.

Using the term vulva will not clarify who uses which provision.

  1. male people claim to have any female external body part that a surgeon will ‘create’.

  2. you would need to educate large portions of the female population in the UK what and where their vulva is.

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