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Dude discusses sneaking into explicitly female event where women undress

51 replies

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 08:18

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1uys5m7/taking_a_risk/

I absolutely think this should be a crime. To think my partner or daughter could be in some seemingly intimate space where women are trusting each other in a vulnerable state and suddenly someone clocks there is a man in there with them is genuinely shocking

Dude discusses sneaking into explicitly female event where women undress
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Seethlaw · Yesterday 08:26

So very telling that his worry is being humiliated, not a word about how the women there might be feeling. They really don't count except as validation tools.

Justme56 · Yesterday 08:44

I wouldn’t be surprised if the humiliation is part of the excitement of doing this - the ‘having some fun!’ is a bit of a giveaway.

GreyskySexRealistsky · Yesterday 09:15

"I will find out if I pass as well as I think"

How very telling.
If there's anything that proves it's all purely about using women as validation this is it.
I hope the women kick up a massive fuss and throw him out.
See how much fun that will be.

MagicMarkers · Yesterday 09:17

The humiliation is part of his fantasy.

Wishesandhorses · Yesterday 09:29

Justme56 · Yesterday 08:44

I wouldn’t be surprised if the humiliation is part of the excitement of doing this - the ‘having some fun!’ is a bit of a giveaway.

Yes. I read that and thought yep, there's the fetish.

This is a sexual game using non consenting women.

solerolover · Yesterday 09:30

He definitely gets off on violating the consent of women, disgusting creep. I hope they throw his arse out.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · Yesterday 09:36

Vile man. What on earth could the event be though? Is he fantasising that too?

Retiredfromthere · Yesterday 09:36

I feel very sorry for the person(s) organising this women only event where there is a deep level of trust that its women only (and no men) as they are being asked to take clothing off. This is the sort of thing where a by product of this TRAs activity will be that the event fails or that they decide its unsafe (for women) to run the event again. I hope they get turned back at the door/booking stage.

fashionqueen0123 · Yesterday 09:40

I can think of an event where you’d randomly get ‘undressed’. Doesn’t he mean get changed? No women says we’re all getting undressed.
Swimming maybe? But it’s about health? Or maybe he’s invented it

DrUptonsGardenGnome · Yesterday 09:42

Massage therapy class? Life drawing? I don’t know but if he’s getting undressed there’s no way he’ll pass.

Lins77 · Yesterday 09:55

He is seeing it as a litmus test for whether he "passes", but that's not necessarily going to be the case. Women may well (probably will) clock him as male, but many will be too polite, embarrassed, or simply afraid, to make that clear.

I would expect a lot of side eye and edging away but not necessarily outright challenge. Unfortunately.

GreyskySexRealistsky · Yesterday 10:14

He uses the words "scared" and "scary" about going to this event. No actual woman would use those words about a women's event. He knows he's transgressing.

"I'm sad that I now have to deny that I'm trans just to live".
God, the drama.
No one's asking him to deny he's trans.
Just to keep out of a women's event because he's not one.
There is absolutely zero thought for the women there and how they will feel.

OneJustPinkAnt · Yesterday 10:25

Once they see his meat and two veg he'll find out he doesn't pass! Absolute sleezeball.

AgnesX · Yesterday 10:29

What sort of female only event that you go to for fun and that requires you to be undressed??

I'm clearly too old because I can't imagine it being anything other than sport. If that's the case the poster is deluded, not least for using the phrase "other" women.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · Yesterday 10:32

The only thing I can think of is a workshop to teach you how to check your breast for breast cancer?

Lins77 · Yesterday 11:45

It could be something like a massage workshop. Probably not undressing completely but maybe partly?

Coffeelovr · Yesterday 11:51

If he thinks he might pass while naked, presumably he's had the full op

EmptyInTheValley · Yesterday 11:52

Women don't have 'fun with their friends' by taking their clothes off.

Lins77 · Yesterday 11:53

I don't think there's any event where people are required to walk around naked. More likely they are changing or undressing to some extent but not completely.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 12:01

It reads like the letters page in a porno mag/site or something else equally as crudy. 🤮
It's a clear violation of a women's space, it's deliberate, it's all for his own gratification, it's sexual assault as far as I'm concerned. 🤬

Mapletree1985 · Yesterday 12:07

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · Yesterday 08:18

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1uys5m7/taking_a_risk/

I absolutely think this should be a crime. To think my partner or daughter could be in some seemingly intimate space where women are trusting each other in a vulnerable state and suddenly someone clocks there is a man in there with them is genuinely shocking

"This event is just for women, but I don't care, Imma gonna go anyway. They're just women, after all. Hope they don't catch me!"

Rightsraptor · Yesterday 12:11

Adam Graham aka 'Isla Bryson' enrolled on a beauty course for women which involved them being naked for the tanning classes. And they were told they had to go along with his fetish and do as he wished.

Disgusting.

viques · Yesterday 12:14

If he happens to see this thread then I have a message for him.

You don’t “pass”. Every woman in the event will clock you for a male within seconds. You are a man, women are hardwired to spot men. These are the things that give it away instantly

your height
your body proportions ( shoulders to hips, arm and leg length, torso,neck)
your Adams apple
your voice
your hands
your feet
your jaw size
the way you move
your hair (head, chin, arms, legs)

And then there are these:

your cock and balls
your male entitlement
the fact that you don’t understand women , or speak like a woman
your clothing choices

I hope the event is horrendously expensive and that they throw you out without a refund.

Datun · Yesterday 12:16

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 12:01

It reads like the letters page in a porno mag/site or something else equally as crudy. 🤮
It's a clear violation of a women's space, it's deliberate, it's all for his own gratification, it's sexual assault as far as I'm concerned. 🤬

I agree. It looks like a made up titillation exercise.

And he'll come back and say how amazing it was that everyone accepted him, they couldn't tell he was a man, despite his one hundred percent male anatomy, face, attitude and misogyny.

CassOle · Yesterday 12:22

This is why the lady who upset a man with a trans identity by screaming and running away from him had the right reaction.

If you say nothing and quietly leave the female single-sex space, they take it as evidence that they pass and that no one minds them being there. A lot of women are not happy with confronting a man in a female single-sex space. Some will complain to the service provider, but if the bloke doesn't know about the complaint, the transgression becomes evidence that he passes.

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