Dude discusses sneaking into explicitly female event where women undress

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https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1uys5m7/taking_a_risk/

I absolutely think this should be a crime. To think my partner or daughter could be in some seemingly intimate space where women are trusting each other in a vulnerable state and suddenly someone clocks there is a man in there with them is genuinely shocking

He says further down: "The point is about how I feel, my fear".

Honestly, you couldn't make it up.

The whole passing thing is so unnecessarily cruel to trans people. It is sad that it uses them to line the pockets of surgeons and drug companies.

It also really exposes the inescapable quality of being a man, socialised male, in our society: Because it never, ever seems to occur to some transwomen that that instead of them passing, what they are experiencing from actual women and girls, is fawning or acquiescence. Both from fear and a socialised need to be kind.

And his smell. Men smell different to women.

Someone I knew went to naked yoga. The rest of us shuddered collectively when she told us.

That phrase is very telling "they're just women, after all". On the one hand he wants to be a woman, a real woman, more than anything, on the other hand he dismisses real women in just five words _ how to tell us you're still a man at heart

And a kck in the nts often offends 🙏

Sick
Where are all the interruptarons, coming to defend this?
"Among other women" ?? No. Among women. Fixed that
FFS

No, men like him do NOT want to be women, which would mean being kind, doing the grunt work for free, being disbelieved, ignored and talked over at every turn and routinely treated as a second class citizen. Men like him keep their penises and their privilege and they know it, because so many women will tolerate this outrage

Now I really want to know what this event is!

Fox in the hen house is quite the fantasy isn't it.

If people are not actively confronting them they take it as "passing", when usually it's nothing of the sort.

But there are so many factors preventing women from speaking up in such situations. Fear of confrontation, not knowing what to say, a general tendency to politeness and "being kind". There's also the factor that in a group of women, an individual woman may fear the judgement of others (being seen as transphobic) if she says anything.

If people are not actively confronting them they take it as "passing", when usually it's nothing of the sort.

I think this has really come as a shock to some TW.

‘…having some fun with friends’ suggests that he’s got a little clique of handmaidens egging him on, too.

"Passing" relies on the 'transphobic' assumption that women are female. I'm assuming this individual got shunned for being a total bigot....

Oh quite, he doesn't want to do the things real women do like housework, or caring for their aging parents. He wants to be the real woman in his head, the one whose totally accepted as "one of the girls" and spends all his time talking about makeup and watching women undress around him

I wonder if it's the women's pond at Hampstead heath

And the idiot may think that if no one says anything he ‘passes’ wonderfully; little knowing, because he has so little clue about women even though he says he is one, that most will see exactly what he is but say nothing.

Just based on the title, I wondered why Epstein's favourite accomplice and his behaviour towards Miss Universe entrants was being given a new thread.

As bad as each other by the looks of it.

They have such a warped view of how women live, don’t they? The use of ‘undressing’ rather than ‘getting changed’ is so telling. They picture us all giggling and running around in the nude together, tits jiggling, ‘helping’ each other with our bras, as we learned recently. The fetishism is so clear, there’s no way they can’t see it. It’s all about women for validation, for allaying their ‘fears’, as support animals. The irony of these men with supposed ‘women-feels’ having literally no idea of how women might actually feel, and lacking the most basic empathy. I am so sick of this huge charade.

The whole "no one's every had a problem with me before this pesky guidance" take is so disingenuous. Like clearly a whole loads of women have very much had a problem with it, else we wouldn't be where we are now. Most women are just too polite or fearful to say anything!

The other week I was in some public toilets and there was a man who had taken his daughter into the cubicles. There were a bunch of women clearly unhappy that there was a man in the toilets but I very much doubt be noticed them when he stormed out (without washing his hands).

I think laughing at him might be a good response

The whole "no one's every had a problem with me before this pesky guidance" take is so disingenuous. Like clearly a whole loads of women have very much had a problem with it, else we wouldn't be where we are now.

Exactly! That argument makes no logical sense. Lots of people increasingly had a problem with the 'before' situation and that's why (among other reasons) the law had to be clarified. They pushed women too far.

Adam Graham aka 'Isla Bryson' enrolled on a beauty course for women which involved them being naked for the tanning classes. And they were told they had to go along with his fetish and do as he wished.

Disgusting.

Spot on Rights, I was going to mention this. And the 16 and 17 year old girls told to strip for him saw him on trial for rape the week after.

Whatever class it is that he’s joining I really hope there’s someone there who calls the Police. Indecent exposure. Voyeurism. He deserves to be taught a lesson ensuring he never pulls this sort of stunt again.