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ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 13/07/2026 09:00

What happened to "being kind"?

Phoenix1Arisen · 13/07/2026 09:04

Who was it said 'when someone shows you who they are, believe them'.

SirChenjins · 13/07/2026 09:04

No mention of his airport floor escapades in the Mail - wonder if they know?

I imagine Aberdeen Uni will do a full investigation and - ooooh look, squirrels!!

On the plus side, the next time one of our in-house TRAs bleats about how they're all just busy living their quiet lives, this is another one to add to the long list of absolute scumbags that shows they're doing anything but.

Motnigh · 13/07/2026 09:18

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 13/07/2026 09:00

What happened to "being kind"?

This has only ever referred to biological women giving up their safe spaces. We're meant to smile and nod and adjust bra straps.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 13/07/2026 09:23

Heyhelga · 13/07/2026 00:10

Proper unhinged things to write inparticular the handcuffs comment he made. Proper looney.

The handcuffs comment sounds pretty much like he's got off on fantasising the violent death of a woman. Surprise surprise.

Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 09:26

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 13/07/2026 09:00

What happened to "being kind"?

It only works one way, seemingly

anyolddinosaur · 13/07/2026 09:31

The handcuffs may have been a reference to the policy of female prisoners being handcuffed to the bed when giving birth, a policy Anne defended but restraints were actually supposed to be removed upon the onset of labour.

SirChenjins · 13/07/2026 09:43

anyolddinosaur · 13/07/2026 09:31

The handcuffs may have been a reference to the policy of female prisoners being handcuffed to the bed when giving birth, a policy Anne defended but restraints were actually supposed to be removed upon the onset of labour.

And the rest?

Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 09:45

anyolddinosaur · 13/07/2026 09:31

The handcuffs may have been a reference to the policy of female prisoners being handcuffed to the bed when giving birth, a policy Anne defended but restraints were actually supposed to be removed upon the onset of labour.

Ann didnt advocate women in labour being handcuffed. Transported to the maternity unit yes, but handcuffs off in labour. A little research would tell you that

Zebedee999 · 13/07/2026 09:47

turquoiseshell · 12/07/2026 23:58

According to The National:
"Herbert went on to join the Scottish Greens after being a Labour candidate but said in 2024 she had resigned from the party following candidate Sophie Molly's deselection after she called JK Rowling "a torn-faced cow"."

Labour, then Green... explains all the hate for an elderly mirder victim whose views you don't agree with. No harm is reasonable debate but those parties always spew hate on anyone they disagree with (ex Labour and ex Green voter here as I dislike their endless spiteful hate).

2021x · 13/07/2026 09:47

I think he could be sacked for his social media presence- it’s good for young people to see that there is a line about bringing your “whole” self to work. They must have a policy.

LizzieSiddal · 13/07/2026 09:51

I hope he gets sacked. He deserves to be.

porridgecake · 13/07/2026 09:52

Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 09:45

Ann didnt advocate women in labour being handcuffed. Transported to the maternity unit yes, but handcuffs off in labour. A little research would tell you that

This. I didn't agree with a lot of things she said but she did not advocate handcuffing women whilst in labour. She was firmly against it.

TheBazaarAtDeva · 13/07/2026 09:58

What was his point there anyway? That he should have been allowed to do that in the ladies toilets? Or was it a comment on flight delays?

Genuinely don't see his reasoning for posting that other than attention-seeking.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 10:02

Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 09:45

Ann didnt advocate women in labour being handcuffed. Transported to the maternity unit yes, but handcuffs off in labour. A little research would tell you that

Yes that misinformation is repeated on here.

anyolddinosaur · 13/07/2026 10:09

Try reading my post again - Anne defended the policy. The policy stated that handcuffs should be removed during labour. Unfortunately the policy was not always correctly applied which resulted in it's removal later when the risk of women escaping was deemed less damaging than the policy being incorrectly applied.

MimiGC · 13/07/2026 10:11

Herbert is neither young nor a woman.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 13/07/2026 10:11

anyolddinosaur · 13/07/2026 07:23

Ironically Anne Widdecombe would have defended his right to say it.

Plenty of calls online for his university to sack him, saying he has brought the uni into disrepute and should not be anywhere near educating young people. He seems to be an IT person.

Indeed. She would have used her intelligence, honesty and integrity in using her words to robustly debate - rather than waiting until somebody she disagreed with had died and only then 'bravely' shouting nasty, hateful things about them. For some reason, Heather is unwilling and/or intellectually unequipped to be able to do the same.

Everybody - including Ann herself - was under no illusions that many of her opinions were controversial; but she made a name for herself and gained widespread respect and stateswoman status all on her own, through hard work, determination and personal integrity - starting in an era when female politicians automatically faced an uphill, misogyny-filled struggle in their careers.

Heather, on the other hand, is just a bitter nobody seeking to gain infamy through inciting pathetic hatred. Ask 100 people at random if they've heard of Ann Widdecombe and then ask them if they've heard of Heather Herbert. Your findings will not surprise you.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/07/2026 10:23

Imagine working at Aberdeen Uni and knowing that you're sharing spaces with a man who fantasises about the death of an elderly women in this way.
As others have said - "when someone shows you who they really are, believe them the first time".

SabrinaThwaite · 13/07/2026 10:36

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 13/07/2026 09:23

The handcuffs comment sounds pretty much like he's got off on fantasising the violent death of a woman. Surprise surprise.

Edited

Once a loon, always a loon. In every sense of the word.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 13/07/2026 10:38

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/07/2026 10:23

Imagine working at Aberdeen Uni and knowing that you're sharing spaces with a man who fantasises about the death of an elderly women in this way.
As others have said - "when someone shows you who they really are, believe them the first time".

I'd love it if all of Heather's colleagues - and indeed every one of the students there - point-blank refused to attend whilst he was there, as they don't feel that their safety is being prioritised.

That's the argument that is invariably brought out when it's the other way around, and somebody makes verbal comments about disagreeing with the activists, isn't it?

If so, why ever wouldn't somebody publicly declaring their wish for an elderly person to suffer immense pain (with a non-too-subtle suggestion of rape) before being murdered be considered far more of a genuine threat to the safety of everybody surrounding them?

micantspelljack · 13/07/2026 10:43

a lot of the hatefull comments were posted before it was revealed she was murdered. Having said that its still unpleasent and to my mind if the hatefull posts are still on the culprits social media then its irelevent when it was posted. A lot of these hatefull comments were from people i followed who professed to have compassion and were activley campaigning against racism ect. They are the lowest of the low in my opinion and they give everyone on the left a bad name.

oldtiredcyclist · 13/07/2026 10:51

These are the online posting rules for Aberdeen University, I may have just asked them on their FB page, whether the comments made online by Herbert breached these rules.

The University of Aberdeen requires online behavior to mirror real-world standards. Under its IT policies, students and staff must not share abusive, discriminatory, or unlawful content. Posting comments that harass, incite violence, or bring the university into disrepute can trigger internal disciplinary procedures.

No Harassment: Abusive, inconsiderate, or discriminatory behavior is strictly prohibited.
Maintain Professionalism: Do not post anything that could cause needless offense, concern, or annoyance.
Protect Information: Do not leak confidential, commercially sensitive, or personal university information.
Accountability: Your online actions are subject to the same internal disciplinary rules and laws as in-person conduct.