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The Bluestocking Women's Pub: Where the Bluebird Sings to the Lemonade Springs

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AngleofRepose · 12/07/2026 21:31

Croeso/Welcome to the Bluestocking Women's Pub, with our lovely gerbil staff, the icy Mojito foot-bath for those of you fed up with the heat, a Quilting/Craft Nook, lots of yummy food and drink with zero calories, gluten, or allergens, the Gerbil World Cup, and a brand new magic pool that becomes a babbling brook whenever you want it to!

Come on in! All women welcome! (Men welcome at The Staunch Ally pub down the road aways)

(security provided by the capybaras, lovely folk, but try not to get in their way)

(oh, and don't mention triangles, please. Gubbins gets very overexcited)

(did we mention the Gerbil World Cup?)

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MyrtleLion · 19/07/2026 17:35

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/07/2026 14:55

Brilliant. Well done Tunnel!!!!!

Is Greta a ghost gerbil or some kind of spirit of the Bluey?

Greta is the Tournament HQ oracle — enigmatic, often mysteriously absent when you’d expect her around, and she has this unsettling habit of knowing things before they’ve happened. Her signature move all tournament: she closes out every single match report with a cryptic line left under a glass, and nobody ever explains how she does it or what she means. She just knows.

EdithStourton · 19/07/2026 18:01

@Hedgehogforshort I am very glad that your nephew has made such good progress. It used to be said that people could keep improving after a brain injury after a year, but I believe that window has now been extended.

Chickadeeinme · 19/07/2026 18:07

@MarieDeGournay It's going to be called Poems About Snow, or in translation for the regional market Perms about Sner😂

That's my region!

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/07/2026 18:14

I went to university in Hull!

EdithStourton · 19/07/2026 18:28

Well, there I was, loyalties divided between Hansa and Discworld, who both go out in the semis, and then I root for Magic Roundabout.

Honestly, never ask me who's going to win a football match, test cricket or an election, and join whichever supermarket queue I don't.

And speaking of queues...

Horse lorry drivers are normally very good. You expect them to brake cautiously, corner slowly, and know the width of their vehicles, and 95%+ of them do all of these things. Then there is the one who decides to pull out in front of you...

Well, in front of me, to be precise. And because she (most horse lorry drivers are women) chose to haul her lorry out into my right of way, I missed the green light at the roadworks. So did she, and she positioned herself badly between the various signs, with her arse end stuck out into a very narrow road. Hey ho. I settled down to wait, pulled well over. A few vehicles tootled past.

Then... Deano, several threads ago, described enormous tractors being driven down the 'back boreens' with 'trailers the size of small bungalows' towed along behind them. An enormous Fendt tractor came into view the other side of the lights, with empty bungalow trailer as its companion. Well, I thought, surely the horse lorry will make a bit more effort to shuffle out of the way. It did not, and Mr Fendt carried on coming. When he was halfway through the coned section, horse lorry woke up, and rather incompetently shuffled a little bit forward and sideway (rather than backwards and then properly forwards and sideways).

Fendt stopped, and when the horse lorry had done what little she planned on doing, he decided that he knew the width of his vehicle and could prise himself and his pet bungalow through the gap, if he put two of his wheels in the hedge and kept an eye on his rearview mirror to see what the bungalow was doing.

I couldn't see, but as I realised later, the lights had gone green in our favour while this was going on.

Horse lorry cowered. I shifted over a bit to show willing, but I wasn't the pinch-point. The hedge shuddered and shed a few leaves, the bungalow bounced a bit, the Fendt got through followed by the bungalow, and the lights went red against us.

When the lights finally went green again, horse lorry rearranged herself, and went very slowly through the one-way bit, and very slowly up the shallow hill, and then, thank God, turned off. So I wasn't stuck behind her doing 30 for the next however many miles.

At this time of year, always expect tractors. Do not be surprised by combines. Lots of combines. They started on the wheat at the end of last week.

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 18:34

Chickadeeinme · 19/07/2026 18:07

@MarieDeGournay It's going to be called Poems About Snow, or in translation for the regional market Perms about Sner😂

That's my region!

I'd never heard about 'sner on the rerd' until you said it, but as you can see I've now I've incorporated it into my poetic oeuvre 😁

DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 18:41

Yay for Tunnel!

And huge thanks to Myrtle, AI and the gerbils for making the last 5 years weeks of the human World Cup bearable and actually, something to look forward to. I'm so glad that the teams in the final were there, not because they employed superheroes or the dark arts, but because they were playing nicely, if not quite to the accepted rules of the game! 😁

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 18:47

Deano, I'm glad you enjoyed the Medieval Day Out, and I suppose once you've seen those superb manuscripts 'in the flesh' some fella droning on and on about them is always going to be a disappointment.

The food sounds impressively varied and yum!

Now: the placenames Lorrha and Dorrha.
As I guessed, they are completely distinct in Irish, somebody thought it would be fun to spell them the same in English.
I've looked through all my books and websites and everything, but can't find their meaning.

Lorrha was originally Lothra, and the best I can do is to say that Dineen [very eccentric lexicographer] has 'loth' as meaning dirty water or mire.
Lorrha is Dura, and nobody has anything to say about that at all.

I thought of Doir meaning oak, and Doras meaning door, but both of those would have been anglicised as Der or Dorr, not a short u as in Dura.

So I have to resort to the Irish toponymist's get-out-of-jail-free cards for when you haven't a clue what the origin of a place-name is, but want to maintain your scholarly aura:
'It must be a personal name' 🤔
or
'It must be pre-Celtic'🤔
😁

DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 18:50

Musing on Edith's comments on the harvest, I've been out in the wilds of Cheshire today and one thing that struck me was the amount of maize being grown these days. I believe it is grown as animal fodder but can't remember seeing these amounts of the crop in previous years. I'm assuming it must have something to do with the continuing war in Ukraine and the price of animal feed. It's very noticeable because it is so much taller than other crops.

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 18:52

DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 18:50

Musing on Edith's comments on the harvest, I've been out in the wilds of Cheshire today and one thing that struck me was the amount of maize being grown these days. I believe it is grown as animal fodder but can't remember seeing these amounts of the crop in previous years. I'm assuming it must have something to do with the continuing war in Ukraine and the price of animal feed. It's very noticeable because it is so much taller than other crops.

It's very noticeable because it is so much taller than other crops.

I believe the height of corn is measured relative to the height of the eye of an elephant.
[geddit?😁]

Thehorticulturalhussie · 19/07/2026 19:03

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 18:52

It's very noticeable because it is so much taller than other crops.

I believe the height of corn is measured relative to the height of the eye of an elephant.
[geddit?😁]

If you mean The Flying Pickets' excellent version then yes I do. Their A Capella take on Only You was also good.

DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 19:13

MarieDeGournay · 19/07/2026 18:52

It's very noticeable because it is so much taller than other crops.

I believe the height of corn is measured relative to the height of the eye of an elephant.
[geddit?😁]

An' it looks like it's climbin' clear up to the skiiiiiiy🎶?

DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 19:15

One for the etymologists. My delayed-action brain triggered while I was driving home and thinking about the 15th Century Paston letters, which were mentioned yesterday. I recalled reading an article saying that the 70 year span of the letters coincided with the start of the Great Vowel Shift which moved the English language from Middle English to Early Modern form (continuing through to the late 17th Century) and that historians have been able to track the change through the letters. This shift involved the pronunciation of vowels (and spelling) from a long to a shortened form e.g. the early pronunciation of sheep would have been more like shape (quick check in Britannia to confirm that I had remembered that correctly). The English language is organic and constantly evolving but this was one of the major changes in history.

MyrtleLion · 19/07/2026 19:19

The Closing Ceremony: Prizes, Paws, and One Very Large Surprise

Griselda had, naturally, produced a schedule for the ceremony three days in advance — timed to the minute, laminated against the possibility of weather, with a contingency schedule laminated behind that in case the first schedule was somehow insufficient. She distributed copies to everyone including, pointedly, Glory, who cannot read but was made to hold one anyway “for the optics.”

“Ten forty, trophy presentation,” she announced to the assembled staff at Gerbil HQ, tapping the clipboard. “Ten fifty-eight, individual awards. Eleven-fifteen, closing remarks, brief. Eleven-twenty, dispersal.” She looked around at everyone’s faces. “Any questions?”

There were none, mostly because everyone else already knew something Griselda didn’t.

The pitch had been transformed — a proper podium wheeled out for the first time all tournament, Gertrude’s medals stacked in careful rows, each one gleaming on the front and, everyone already knew from experience, faintly sunflower-flavoured on the back. Gwendoline’s programme for the day ran to four pages and had somehow used the word “GLITTERING” in four different fonts.

Ten forty, precisely. The trophy itself was wheeled out under a cloth by two gerbils who clearly considered this the single greatest responsibility of their lives so far, Griselda walking alongside it with the particular stiff-backed pride of someone who had checked its polish herself and would not be discussing how early she’d arrived to do so. When the cloth came off, the whole ground went up as one — a great deal of gold, entirely too large for practical use, topped with a tiny sculpted gerbil mid-celebration that Gertrude had spent a full week getting exactly right.

Tunnel’s captain came up the steps to lift it, the whole team crowding in behind her, and for a moment the trophy caught the light so completely that half the crowd’s photos afterward showed nothing but glare and delight in roughly equal measure. She held it aloft, the team roared beneath her, and Glory drifted directly overhead as if she’d been personally invited to hover there.

Only once the trophy had done a full, unhurried lap of the pitch in the captain’s paws — every gerbil in the ground getting close enough to touch it, Play School’s whole team included, Humpty patting it once as though checking it, too, might have a window somewhere — did Griselda allow the ceremony to move on.

The Golden Paw (top goalscorer) went to Tunnel’s late-blooming striker, the gerbil who’d spent a whole tournament in the shadow of the tunnels before stepping fully into the light in the final — three goals in the last two matches alone. She accepted it with the same quiet, startled modesty she’d shown scoring every one of them.

Best Save went to Tunnel’s keeper, for her full-stretch stop against Discworld with nothing but ordinary grass beneath her and nowhere to disappear to. She held the medal up to the crowd and then, without ceremony, immediately bit off a corner of the edible reverse, to enormous applause.

Fair Play was awarded, to gentle and prolonged laughter, to Play School — nobody present needed reminding why, and Humpty accepted on behalf of the team with the placid dignity of someone still fairly sure there’d been a window involved somewhere.

Best Newcomer went, unanimously and without debate, to Atlantis, whose whole tournament had lasted one match and had somehow still produced two goals against Magic Roundabout and a great deal of affection.

The Golden Whistle, new this year, went to the elephant shrews as a body, for surviving a tournament that had asked them to adjudicate corner flags bent by unexplained means, tackles from Death, and at least one goal nobody could fully reconstruct.

Griselda ran through each presentation exactly to schedule, checking her clipboard after every single one, visibly delighted and visibly trying not to show it.

Then, at ten fifty-eight and thirty seconds — a full ninety seconds ahead of her own itinerary, which she would later insist was “an oversight, not a pattern” — Florence stepped up to the microphone instead of Griselda.

“There’s one more award,” Florence said, “that isn’t on the schedule.”

Griselda actually looked down at her own clipboard, as if it might have betrayed her.

“For the gerbil,” Florence went on, “who ran this whole tournament from a folding table, who settled every dispute, who never once raised her voice even when Nanny Ogg’s corner kicks defied several laws of physics, and who — we happen to know — kept a single sunflower seed in her pocket the day England lost, rather than eat it, because some things you just don’t feel like celebrating alone.”

Gertrude, from the side, was already holding out a small velvet box.

“The first-ever Golden Clipboard,” Florence said, “for services to Gerbil football. Griselda — get up here.”

Griselda did not move for a full three seconds, which for a gerbil who has never once been early or late to anything in her life, constituted a kind of small earthquake.

Gwendoline’s bulletin, drafted entirely in advance for exactly this moment, went out already reading: SHE HAS NO SCHEDULE FOR THIS AND WE ARE DELIGHTED.

Griselda walked up slowly, took the little golden clipboard — solid, absurd, entirely useless for actual note-taking — and held it for a long moment without speaking. Behind her, the whole tournament’s worth of teams, real winners and real losers alike, was on its feet.

“I don’t,” she said eventually, “have anything prepared.”

“We know,” said Gwendoline, gently. “That’s rather the point.”

Griselda laughed — a real one, caught off guard, the kind she doesn’t often allow herself — and held the little clipboard up to the crowd, and the whole ground answered her back.

Greta’s line, waiting under the glass as always, had clearly been placed there days ago and simply left to wait its turn:

She kept the schedule for everyone else. Today, for once, it kept nothing back from her.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/the-closing-ceremony

The Bluestocking Women's Pub:  Where the Bluebird Sings to the Lemonade Springs
DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 19:24

😍😍😍

EmpressaurusKitty · 19/07/2026 19:26

That’s absolutely lovely.

backformoreofthesame · 19/07/2026 19:51

DauntlessDamson · 19/07/2026 19:15

One for the etymologists. My delayed-action brain triggered while I was driving home and thinking about the 15th Century Paston letters, which were mentioned yesterday. I recalled reading an article saying that the 70 year span of the letters coincided with the start of the Great Vowel Shift which moved the English language from Middle English to Early Modern form (continuing through to the late 17th Century) and that historians have been able to track the change through the letters. This shift involved the pronunciation of vowels (and spelling) from a long to a shortened form e.g. the early pronunciation of sheep would have been more like shape (quick check in Britannia to confirm that I had remembered that correctly). The English language is organic and constantly evolving but this was one of the major changes in history.

My rule for translating the southern Scot’s dialect is to try a different vowel sound - apparently the vowel shift didn’t catch on round there

NotAtMyAge · 19/07/2026 21:12

That ending is real lump in the throat stuff, Myrtle. 💖

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/07/2026 07:27

This photo from Holland Park, West London, came up in my Facebook memories today. It felt like something that should be shared in here.

The Bluestocking Women's Pub:  Where the Bluebird Sings to the Lemonade Springs
EdithStourton · 20/07/2026 07:42

It's good to see a peacock in regular employment, not just scrounging and squawking which is all our local ones ever do.

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/07/2026 07:49

I wonder if peacocks do grounds maintenance at The Staunch Ally.

EdithStourton · 20/07/2026 08:36

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/07/2026 07:49

I wonder if peacocks do grounds maintenance at The Staunch Ally.

I suspect that they provide alarm clock services.
Early risers, are peacocks. And loud.

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/07/2026 08:53

EdithStourton · 20/07/2026 08:36

I suspect that they provide alarm clock services.
Early risers, are peacocks. And loud.

That sounds very likely. They might be useful for calling time as well.

If that concept exists at these pubs…

ErrolTheDragon · 20/07/2026 09:02

Whereas we have peahens at the BS. A few years ago one turned up in our neighbourhood and would sometimes perch on my arbour and feed on the lawn. She was very calm, quietly walked to a different area when I was working in the garden. Someone local who keeps peafowl came and caught her, I expect she’s better off with a flock but I missed her.

The Bluestocking Women's Pub:  Where the Bluebird Sings to the Lemonade Springs
The Bluestocking Women's Pub:  Where the Bluebird Sings to the Lemonade Springs
The Bluestocking Women's Pub:  Where the Bluebird Sings to the Lemonade Springs
MarieDeGournay · 20/07/2026 09:16

NotAtMyAge · 19/07/2026 21:12

That ending is real lump in the throat stuff, Myrtle. 💖

It is indeed, I think I must have got a speck of dust in my eye when the Golden Clipboard made its appearance, that's the only possible explanation..😏

One final award:
this one goes to MyrtleLion, for organising a wonderful tournament that has kept us enthralled, entertained, amazed, amused and at times inspired and emotional.
It has been golden. Thank you Myrtle💛

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