What is a “good experience” in a women’s toilet?

[MyAmpleSheep]

From Reddit.

List your good experiences of using single sex spaces of your gender?

Cheer up everyone’s day by listing your good experiences of using single sex spaces.
Helping fix a woman bra, giving a woman a pad, receiving compliments from women…

Can GI supporting people see why examples of a “good experience” for a trans-identifying man in a women’s toilet being - (first) to play with a woman’s underwear and (second) get involved in her menstruation - is profoundly unhelpful?

Wouldn’t a “good experience” simply be to use the facilities and leave?

How does this “cheer up everyone’s day״?

A woman and I did briefly mention to each other today how lovely the fresh flowers were in the ladies' at Parham House in Sussex. There were 3 big vase fulls near the sinks.
Can't remember last time I spoke to anyone, though...

Everything clean, everything working, enough loo roll. Solid coat hook.

Ideally nobody of any sex or whatever in any adjoining cubicle. I don't want going to the loo to be a social occasion.

I’ll add that I’ve never pissed about with someone’s bra or been asked for/asked for a sanitary item in a toilet. And I’ve never seen anyone else doing this either. Seems like the stuff fantasists might imagine. Especially the fact he refers to us as women. Making it clear he really does know what one is.

I did one of those oh no we keep deciding to go the same way and doing the sideways back and forth thing on the way into one last week.
I said "Shall we dance?" which I generally do when that happens, but that's not exclusively relevant to loos.

I just want to go in, do my business in a clean smelling loo, wash my hands and LEAVE. I don't bother looking at anyone else in it. Or care.🙄

Oh that's horrible, I'm so sorry that happened 💐

For me it's that it's totally empty apart from me. The worst ever is the queue where it's just one in, one out. Flush, flush, flush. Loads of people hearing and waiting while you go. Nightmare.

Also ideally very clean. Or at least visibly and smelling clean.

Eww they're creepy sods aren't they.

No smell.
Clean generally
Clean loo suit
Loo paper. Accessible without hard work.
Door lock works
Soap
Water not too hot
Water not too splashy
Some method of drying hands.
No one to talk too.

I swear only on Mumsnet do peole dig these threads out of Reddit and make threads about them.

The internet is weird. News flash.

sigh.

Revolting 🤢

Women want toilet paper, a clean toilet, a lock on the door, running hot water and soap. AND NO BLOODY MEN IN THERE.

I always feel like some crazy outlier in these threads 😬 I've had loads of conversations in the loos, from four-word functional exchanges to long and meaningful.

None of them were performatively 'feminine' though, unless you count things like "I love your nails" and "Where did you get that dress?" I have asked and been asked for help with a zip or to check a hem. I've probably been asked or asked for a tampon, though can't remember any such. Wet wipes, definitely.

The point is that women's interactions never aim to affirm our womanhood. We're already sure of it!

According to the comments on that post, the reddit OP is a known troll.

Was it someone from here looking for screenshots?

Clean
No queue
Toilet paper
Door hook
Sinks that don't take a degree to work out
Paper towels
No one hanging about looking for "validation"

I once went in one that had a full-length oil painting of Eddy and Patsy, I'm a big Ab Fab fan so that made my day!

You must be able to access the parallel universe portal 🙂

I was recently, and for the first time ever in my 59 years, asked to untwist a woman’s bra shoulder straps in the gym changing room. She said she had sensory issues and knew it would drive her nuts for the rest of the day.
We were both slightly embarrassed and it was a very quick, functional and polite exchange. We didn’t start swapping tampons or comparing our spinny skirts or anything.

And no more upper or lower body matter being wiped on walls. Button-free lid closing and flushing mandatory.

My dream is a completely hands-free public toilet: automatic locking cubicle doors, automatic entrance and exit doors. What's the point of washing your hands properly if you then have to touch the same door handle that everyone else has used to leave the bathroom?

It’s nice when there is fancy hand wash with matching hand cream

But I’d settle for clean with locking doors and hand dryers that work

I lived and worked in Japan for a while and the women's toilets in cafés and restaurants had individually wrapped sanitary protection discretely available to take for free, (without having to speak to anyone) which was occasionally useful back then and felt welcoming. There were also often odd trinkets like polished pebbles offered to take which was culturally unfamiliar and felt a bit unnecessary!

Otherwise no queue and clean are the absolute best things, followed by well lit and spacious with bins in sensible places and a hook on the door to hang a bag if I have one, and no nauseating overwhelming air freshener or perfume particles from recent excessive spraying to make me sneeze and give me a headache! Oh and sensible taps which are easy to use and don't spray at incredible force and get my clothes wet, and soap and paper towels have been refilled!

I don't want to speak to anyone in the toilet unless I know them - women who don't know one another only speak to one another in the queue if waiting ages (Smalltalk about queuing), or if there's a problem, like no toilet paper/ soap ime.

Things That Never Happened volume 3,453

Helping fix a woman bra, giving a woman a pad, receiving compliments from women…

Having a good wank later over these fantasies that never actually happen.

Also, you’re a woman! No one is asking these men for tampax or bra help.

Can't we build them a bloody theme park or something?

It sounds like people who've never interacted within a group of women or girls or listened carefully to people who have conflating what MIGHT happen among friends within a closed, "safe" system like a girls' lavatory at school with how random women thrown together would typically interact with strange women (and, apparently, the odd man) in public loos in the wild.

I've certainly had conversations with strangers in the loo occasionally, but I can't really say it's ever really enhanced the experience or made the difference between a good vs a mediocre or bad "women's toilet experience". There HAVE been a few occasions where I've overheard something funny, but that's not really an interaction and I don't think the responsible party meant to brighten my day or would have appreciated knowing that she had.

Why would you think that? Do you think there is something unsavoury about the whole thing? It might answer one of your earlier questions perhaps.