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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC Article updated with details "A man who admitted sending a number of threatening hoax emails to three girls schools, threatening to target pupils and staff over the "misgendering" of trans girls, has been jailed."

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/06/2026 17:20

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e20ll9gz2o

This went out with no details at all on the reasons or details.

A police custody photograph of Darren Rigby who has brown hair and is wearing a grey jumper over a black t-shirt

Darren Rigby jailed over hoax death threats sent to schools

The 21-year-old targeted female pupils and staff who he claimed were "misgendering" trans girls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e20ll9gz2o

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Chersfrozenface · 23/06/2026 13:28

Has it dawned on the BBC, I wonder, that regurgitating police forces' press releases wholesale is a bad idea, because the police lie, directly and by omission.

I mean, those of us who have complained about previous cases have told the Beeb as much, but it was fingers in ears and la-la-la at the time.

JanesLittleGirl · 23/06/2026 13:48

MarieDeGournay · 23/06/2026 13:14

I agree - far from ideal, but so much better than previous BBC responses to complaints.
The tanker is definitely turning, though I don't think there's anybody sitting on the deck with a glass of whiskey/whisky and a cigar just yet😁

TBF, nobody will ever sit on the deck of a tanker with a cigar. Not even JKR.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/06/2026 13:50

JanesLittleGirl · 23/06/2026 13:48

TBF, nobody will ever sit on the deck of a tanker with a cigar. Not even JKR.

Edited

I have been present when golf-club moguls have wandered into firework set-up smoking cigars, so I wouldn't bet on that

JanesLittleGirl · 23/06/2026 13:57

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/06/2026 13:50

I have been present when golf-club moguls have wandered into firework set-up smoking cigars, so I wouldn't bet on that

But on a tanker, the duty fireguard will pour a bucket of sand over you and stamp on the cigar and you.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/06/2026 14:02

We didn't quite do that as we ran him off, but I think some of us would have liked to! He was one of the committee who were paying us, so it might have been a bit of a bad idea to be too rough with him.

One should still never underestimate human stupidity. People used to put petrol into their cars while smoking a cigarette. And the first petrol station i ever used to go to regularly, when the family got our first car in the fifties, had a notice by the pumps which I remember to this day:

WHEN FILLING, NO SMOKING.
EXTINGUISH ALL LIGHTS
OIL OR GAS.

GCScot · 23/06/2026 14:03

Glad to see this definition made it in: "TERFS" [an acronym of Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist which has been used as a derogatory term against women opposed to gender ideology]"

I remember the original article. Glad it's been updated, although agree very few people will see the updated version. It reads to me like the journalist who wrote the update may actually be gender critical, so thorough is the U-turn

ErrolTheDragon · 23/06/2026 14:08

IIRC it’s now fairly similar to the report which was in a local paper or blog at the time (linked on the other thread). Though that also, I think, mentioned that as an extra twist to the vileness, some of the girls at the Southport school had been affected by the murders. I don’t think the BBC piece mentions that.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 23/06/2026 14:10

ErrolTheDragon · 23/06/2026 14:08

IIRC it’s now fairly similar to the report which was in a local paper or blog at the time (linked on the other thread). Though that also, I think, mentioned that as an extra twist to the vileness, some of the girls at the Southport school had been affected by the murders. I don’t think the BBC piece mentions that.

This one. So much more detail (scroll down). Put the BBC to shame

https://southport.thelead.uk/p/hoax-attacker-threatened-violent

ProfessorBinturong · 23/06/2026 14:13

PrettyDamnCosmic · 23/06/2026 12:30

I don't think that the BBC has reporters sitting in court on the off-chance the story will be juicy. I guess at one time they would have relied on local newspaper journalists as stringers but that species is all but extinct now. I think that the Press Association do court reporting at the Old Bailey & for other prominent cases.

The letter of apology reads to me as though the original story was written without full knowledge of the case because there was no journalist in court & it was only later that the full story was made known.

From the correction (my bold):

"This article was originally published without including key details about this case, due to miscommunication between BBC reporters in court and the writers."

It may not be true, but it's their claim.

MarieDeGournay · 23/06/2026 16:24

JanesLittleGirl · 23/06/2026 13:57

But on a tanker, the duty fireguard will pour a bucket of sand over you and stamp on the cigar and you.

Fair enough😁

Whoopiedooo · 23/06/2026 16:28

ProfessorBinturong · 22/06/2026 17:33

That sounds as if the original.report left out virtually everything. Did it just say 'Man jailed'.

More likely it said "Woman Jailed", sadly.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/06/2026 16:35

I think they did actually know what sex he was; and since they carefully were not saying he claimed to be trans, and they published his mugshot, it was pretty obvious.

Cailin66 · 23/06/2026 18:09

I’m confused. The BBC said the problem was court reporting, a mix up in the corrected article, but in the email to the complaint, it says the error is due to police reporting. Where can we see what the police report said?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/06/2026 19:08

That is a masterpiece of ignoring the trans in the room, isn't it.

ProfessorBinturong · 23/06/2026 19:34

That must be it - it's a very close match to the original article.

hholiday · Yesterday 04:43

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 22/06/2026 19:04

Maybe the "confusion" between the court reporters and those who actually wrote the original story was that the court reporters had actually written about the Truth, and the writers couldn't handle the Truth (where's that gif when you need it?) so chopped it up into something Resembling the Truth.

Or what you said.

Having worked at the BBC, I know for a fact that unfortunately they're propping up the careers of hundreds of local TV and radio staff across nations and regions who aren't competent to report for online (in that they are broadcasters who can't write and don't have the required shorthand skills to cover court cases and inquests). Something like 98% of BBC England's budget goes on these staff and the unions kick off every time they try to get rid of them (not that they try very hard).

Nick Wallis has gone into more details here – the BBC online report was based upon a police press release and the reporter 'didn't see' the notes of the local radio reporter who was in court (focused on compiling a radio piece, apparently, which very few people will end up listening to – local radio audience figures are on the floor). https://www.thetimes.com/uk/media/article/bbc-apology-trans-story-darren-rigby-llq3kdqfn - sorry, archive links aren't working for me atm.

So the police did their usual thing of sanitising the violent trans activist's motivation and the BBC followed suit.

It might be that the radio reporter's notes were deliberately ignored... that is a possibility. But, as I say, if the BBC has a journalist in court, then why are they sending another journalist 'notes'? Why aren't they writing the story themselves?

In this case, the BBC's costly and clunky ways of working have highlighted yet again their previous failures on this issue, causing massive scrutiny and embarrassment – from both JK and now Nick Wallis. They need to invest in some properly qualified online staff, probably from local newspapers, and a structure that means all stories are scrutinised and checked before being published.

What the curious case of Darren Rigby says about BBC trans coverage

After years of dismissing concerns about its reporting of transgender issues, the corporation has apologised for a story it got badly wrong

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/media/article/bbc-apology-trans-story-darren-rigby-llq3kdqfn

heathspeedwell · Yesterday 09:10

Fantastic article, thanks impossible. I'm so glad we've got Nick Wallis covering this topic.

Chersfrozenface · Yesterday 09:21

Anyone with any intelligence and common sense on the TRA side should really be worried about Nick Wallis taking on this topic.

He is clever, thorough, tenacious and famously historically on the side of the goodies.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 09:35

Fantastic article by Nick.

Yesterdayoho · Yesterday 09:41

NC for this but I work at one of the 3 schools, clearly a very disturbed man

BernardBlacksMolluscs · Yesterday 09:44

such a good article, I was hoping there'd be a sharing link on here somewhere!

They argue that the longer the BBC remains equivocal about something as fundamental as sex, its audience is unlikely to trust it on much else

couldn't agree more. after having been gaslighted by the BBC for 10 years to the point I just gave up complaining and also gave up consuming most BBC content (shout out to Rad Mac, the only reason I still pay my licence fee) when I come across one of those 'our BBC' ads I couldn't roll my eyes any harder.

I really do expect the BBC not to lie about fundamentals. I do not think that is unreasonable.

Yesterdayoho · Yesterday 09:47

We had to lockdown school and keep kids in classrooms, they had to be escorted to the toilets, horrible.

Chersfrozenface · Yesterday 10:13

Yesterdayoho · Yesterday 09:47

We had to lockdown school and keep kids in classrooms, they had to be escorted to the toilets, horrible.

That must have been so awful for the staff and for the pupils, though I'm sure you tried to keep everything as calm as possible for them. Worrying for the parents, too, when they found out.