Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

[Yddraigoldragon]

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

Like others, I don’t see it as up to me which platforms Sammy Woodhouse takes up, and neither do I think she’s concerned about optics. She survived things most of us can’t imagine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46368991

And yet I have zero doubt the denialists among you would’ve have no problem making the Roman Catholic link. None whatsoever.

But will someone think of the optics 🙄

Too much victim blaming.

It’s down the list on the order of ‘priorities’.

The priority is children being sexually abused.

How many people have been raped or killed in the name of white supremacy since the Millennium? Maybe 3 or 4?

By comparison we have thousands of girls raped and 94 people murdered in the name of Islamic extremism and ‘culture differences’.

Priorities.

I think it’s similar to KJK, she’s got agency, if Sammy thinks this alliance is going to advance her aims, it’s up to her. People have frequently tried to shut her up, most recently yesterday on Good Morning Britain, as I said.

I can agree with her on one thing and not others. I don’t support Restore as a party. This is all a bit purity spirally, people are allowed to support Sammy herself as a victim advocate and survivor without being accused of supporting white supremacists she has shared a platform with. I cannot stand being expected to performatively denounce people for who they choose to be platformed by, it’s guaranteed to get my back up, however much I think some of your concerns about Restore and Lowe’s associates are valid.

My reply to you was deleted. I take it that was because I used the F word. If that offended you I apologise.

I'm annoyed you're asking me to comment on something I have had nothing to do with. I do not follow Donna, I'm not on X if that's where this is going on. I don't condone any antisemitic comments.

I'm annoyed you're asking me to comment on something I have had nothing to do with.

As someone who's being repeatedly accused of victim blaming, because I disagree with Sammy Woodhouse being a keynote speaker at a white supremacy conference, I'm all broken up about your feelings.

It’s so slimy isn’t it! Offensively cowardly.

Most women on this thread are only engaging with Lowe due to this report. They’re not Lotus Eaters subscribers or incels who follow Andrew Tate.

You think it’s worthless, I have taken some of your points on board, as you know what you are talking about regards these people, but I still don’t think this report has no value. And I don’t think it was done for entirely cynical reasons either, rightly or wrongly I think he absolutely believes he’s doing the right thing, which is how he comes across to the ordinary people, who aren’t necessarily far right, who think he has something worthwhile to say and have grown jaded with Farage etc. To reiterate, I personally agree that Lowe and particularly many of his younger followers are extremists. Just like many of the young Green Party members wanting zero controls on immigration, abolish police and prisons etc.

If you've read the exchanges on this thread and your main thought is that you need to tell me off, that's your judgment.

You know something of my background. You know that I will speak without fear or favour about abuse of women in different organisations or subsets of society.

You will not shame me into saying that Sammy Woodhouse consorting with literal fascists is no big deal. It undermines all the valuable advocacy she has done.

Nor will you shame me into taking a knee for the Lowebots who have smeared me on this thread.

You've been around a long time. You're better than that.

I’m not telling you off, I’m laying out my position. You are purity spiralling here. People are allowed to think it’s whataboutery and not relevant to whether the report should be read.

The other thing guaranteed to get my back up is when people suggest that I’m a Russian bot or a “Farage shill” (as some charmer put it) or something because they don’t agree with me. I realise you aren’t aiming that at me but several posters you’re arguing with are regular posters who don’t just post on the immigration threads. They’re not bots.

But you’re smearing posters in return with ‘Lowebots’ etc

@SionnachRuadh is being mischaracterised here and that’s why she’s hitting back. She isn’t a left wing zombie type like many on MN. She does have valid concerns and political knowledge of the people involved. But this is getting personal on all sides.

I've never even fucking heard of this bloke.

So, we all know that the crimes committed by these Pakistani Muslim rape gangs was so prolific In places like Rotherham, Bradford, Halifax etc that entire communities, including the police, council workers, care home employees were all knowledgeable of what was actually going on. I think it’s also been reported that many of the families, wives, daughters, sons, cousins of the perpetrators absolutely knew what was happening, but just went on with their days like it was just normal. So, my question is, how many of those family members are commenting on this platform? It seems to me that every single human being, regardless of race, should be screaming for justice for the child victims of Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. If you are not doing so, then why not? Those who knew and said nothing at the time and still try to protect perpetrators by waving around the race card should be looked at very closely indeed.

If she’s being mischaracterised it’s because she’s characterised herself.

I would love to know why my non offensive, factual post comparing murder data between right wing extremists and Islamic extremists has been deleted?