Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

[Yddraigoldragon]

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

I wouldn't trust a word he said.

He's been around a long time, I have longer. I don't remember anybody caring much about similar things when I was young, the girls always got the blame. It's good that it is now being taken seriously with many arrests but he is using it for his own warped agenda. Forty or fifty years ago he wouldn't have wanted to know.

All these cases were a complete failure of multi agency safeguarding. The system which was supposed to protect these girls completely let them down.

Yes this 100%

Very sad. We are now a society that chooses not to protect children from rapey men.

Rapey men are seen as the victims of Rupert Lowe - incredible.

Anyone remember little Owen's contribution?
https://deepnewz.com/britain/owen-jones-faces-scrutiny-over-grooming-gangs-statements-rotherham-2023-2024-7bcfffb9

At least he listened to these girls.

I think this is very true. When labels like “far right” are overused, they lose their power, just like when you get called a Nazi for saying women are female.

Exactly this. Plus their support for incestuous marriages and subsequent children, within the muslim community (despite the costs incurred in future). Plus the benefits for life demographic. Labour have sewn up a couple of sections of voters here haven't they.

Much appreciated x

Fear of racism wasn't the issue in most cases.

Authorities didn't care about the girls because they were seen as "slags" and "asking for it".

The same mentality as the Yorkshire Ripper murders and a police chief referring to "moving on to innocent women" when a student was murdered and not a sex worker.

If people genuinely thought "fear of racism" was an issue they could just stop using these incidents to fuel racism and attacks on immigrants.

Indeed.
I'll take being called far-right by grooming gang sympathisers.

Read the Casey report into Rotherham council, @HPFA- claimed fear of racism was very much an issue, genuine or feigned.

I think it is a racist crime.

I think we need to look banning more extreme sects of Islam. I do not see the peaceful ahmadiyya muslims in the next village raping white girls.

Once again the apologists falling over themselves to blame the “far right” over an endemic problem with a specific part of our population. Whoever funded this report and wrote the foreword doesn’t matter - this happened and will keep happening if the UK doesn’t do something to address these issues. No wander there is rioting.

Fear of racism absolutely was the issue. How can anyone claim it wasn't?

Totally agree, that's the takeaway from reading accounts of the subject from various perspectives. The authors do have to sugar coat it however because it's so litigious and local councils have money to burn on court action. I think the late Andrew Norfolk came closest to this in a Sunday Times piece on Greater Manchester where he actually wrote that young women were being 'pimped out' by the local authority to an Asian man.

It's just one of those areas of life, like the reason there are no decent review websites on care homes, if the local authority is in any way involved you are in new and dangerous territory. In many ways they have a power Westminster can only dream of. The Govt controls the budget, the direction of travel and foreign policy but local authorities actually run the country on a day to day basis.

I'd say that grooming gangs are worse in Labour-led local authorities while the Tory ones such as Surrey have scandal in care homes for the elderly. It's all down to demographics; Labour-led authorities do have a lot of ethnic minorities some - but not all - of whom indulge in this behaviour, Tory councils like Surrey have a high elderly population they need to 'work through'.

There are reasons why the Tory Govt also did not launch an inquiry into the grooming gangs in Labour-led authorities despite it being to its political advantage - with local authority corruption you simply don't go there, they can get very very nasty.

A very few were girls from stable homes, yes. It is striking however how many girls had been subject to abuse of one sort or another.

That to me is the root cause of this.

Children who have already been abused by their own parents. Children whose parents don't know or care where they are. Children coming from families where schools don't matter. Children who are already exposed to drugs and alcohol at a young age.

They were already being systemically abused by their families even before any of the grooming gangs came along.

The question, I suppose, is whether you would learn anything from this report that you wouldn't learn if you'd been listening to Maggie Oliver or Claire Adams or Donna Edmunds or Adam Wren. Or if you'd read Jay or Casey. And I don't think you would.

What we've got is harrowing testimonies from survivors, topped and tailed with shonky sub-GCSE prose that doesn't pass muster as any sort of inquiry report.

Survivors were told this would all have legal input - some were given to understand the report would be signed off by a KC - and it turns out to have been produced, right in time for the by-election, by Lowe staffer Harrison Pitt, Lowe staffer Charlie Downes, and Lotus Munchers podcaster Josh Ferme - none of whom seems to have any background in law, criminology, statistics or research methodology.

And - bearing in mind Labour and its media outriders have spent decades saying anyone noticing these crimes was a far right agitator acting in bad faith - is it helpful to have people with actual far right connections fronting this?

Fuck knows I have little patience with the tribal leftists on FWR, but I don't think Sammy Woodhouse going to Portugal last month to speak at Martin Sellner's ethnic cleansing summit is something that helps the survivor community.

YMMV.

Nor would they call for the death penalty.

The second I read that I lose all respect for the person who wrote it.

And let's not forget Stephen Fry calling the Pakistani paedo victims of sex abuse 'prostitutes'.. and in another interview, 'self-pitying'

https://x.com/bindelj/status/1935985679944581543

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/stephen-fry-criticised-for-cruel-and-indefensible-comments-on-sexual-abuse_uk_570cce30e4b07a35187c85bf

Just not your kind of guy? But I’d rather have a doer, and that’s what he is.
Do you know he sits in parliamentary committees week in and week out, challenging the largely inept often with great common sense when seemingly absent all around? As said, I’ll take an imperfect doer anytime.

Fair enough. But what do you think about the victim testimonies within the report?

Or do you dismiss the whole report because you've <check notes> 'lost respect' for the person who wrote it?

Nearly 100% of the perpetrators of these horrendous crimes against young girls, were carried out by thousands of Pakistani Muslim men, in dozens of towns across England - Rotherham, Rochdale, Halifax, Aylebury, Banbury, Bristol, Derby, Huddersfield, Manchester, Newcastle, Oxford, Peterborough, Telford and others.
One of the Bradford victims, who was raped and abused from the age of 13, was married to one of her abusers at the age of 15 in an Islamic ceremony, with her male Pakistani social worker present. The social worker, Anwar Meah, was investigated by police, but no further action was taken. You cannot make this up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89ezepnj0jo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal

Ik and the ‘lol’ below. The lengths people go to to deflect and excuse