Cambridge University ignoring the Supreme Court ruling?

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Dd is going to the Cambridge open day coming up, I got an email through about the colleges and was having a read through. There’s a section about “gender identity” and how it impacts on what colleges you can apply to. There are two women’s colleges but both accept anyone who identifies as a woman!

This is from Murray Edwards:
“At the admissions level, we will consider any student who, at the point of application, identifies as a woman“

How can this still be allowed? It’s self ID too so has NEVER been legal for the purposes of the eqA.

Phew!

Can I upgrade that to ‘word boiled head cheese’?

Or maybe just... tripe?

🤣🤣🤣

but tripe is what it is.

Plain and simple not disguised.

maybe fat free mayo?

Or
bubble and squeek
its a traditional dish made of leftovers
and I like the
squeek

or quorn sausage?

veg pretending to be meat

No im a vegetarian of over 40years I couldn’t Possibly accept any connection with veggie protein sources and
anti women blurrrrrr

peace ✌️ and love ❤️

Are we still arguing with Mr. AI Word Salad?

I suspect most of us are just scrolling through. He needs a new hobby.

‘who identify as females and quite frankly are significantly more marginalised and disadvantaged than myself‘

Who says they are disadvantaged and marginalised? They may not have been marginalised at all. All sorts of privileged men are now trans.

Elon Musk’s son would be an example. And no doubt he’s applauded and hugged wherever he goes.

@MyAmpleSheep i think you have mis-parsed @Baileyonice as a name. It is Bailey On Ice, so BOI, not BON. Much more appropriate.

The problem here is meat and two veg pretending not to be...

Yes.

I’m sticking with Bailey O’Nice for now. Makes as much sense as anything else they write.

To be fair, I never thought women were equal to men; I thought they ought to be treated as equivalent, which is not quite the same thing.

This was in the same way as not thinking someone five foot one is equal to someone six foot four; if nothing else the one who is six foot four can get things out of higher cupboards without needing a set of steps to do it. The other won't bash his head against the beams in the attic so much.

People are not digits any more than they are parts of speech to be "gendered". (And of course pigeon-holes are for pigeons.)

I used equal in the sense of of equal human value, worth, and intelligence and deserving of equal autonomy, not equal in the sense of identical. (I actually read "equivalent" as implying interchangeable)

Fair. Of course, women are greatly superior, but saying that in the sixties was never going to go down well....

Different but of equal importance, maybe?

Apologies for nitpicking because I agree with your general point, but I fear that "different but of equal importance" leads to "women are of equal importance but different to men. Their sphere is the home, where we greatly value them and their contributions to society in raising children. No of course they don't need their own money, why on earth would they?"

Respect is worthless if it doesn't come with equal access to power: cultural, social and financial. If society does not structure itself to allow women equal access to power, we have autonomy in throry but not in practice. We are set up to fail. That is why I emphasise equal value, worth, and intelligence as the justification for equal autonomy.

I'd say women having equal power in practice not just in theory is still a work in progress. One only needs to glance at the MN realtionships board and even some IABU threads to see how normalised female subjection and exploitation still is.

There is no way to say "all people are people and are potentially the same in all the important ways apart from being of two different sexes" without some man finding a way to use it to belittle women, I suspect.

There never used to be the need to point out that men and woman are two different sexes: it has been obvious since the dawn of time or the beginning of the species' existence. As far as I am concerned it is still obvious.