Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DS’ school collecting money for Stonewall: how to respond?

58 replies

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoByAgain · Yesterday 20:45

Email from his secondary school today that they are holding an own clothes day fundraiser to collect money for the charity Stonewall.

I really don’t want to go in heavy handed because a) I think it’s more powerful to change things with calm explanations than ranting, and b) I am assuming it’s coming from a place of ignorance not prejudice and c) I don’t want to make things difficult for my DS… but please help me draft an email setting out why this is a wholly inappropriate “charity” for a school to support? With links to evidence if possible! TIA

OP posts:
GeneralPeter · Today 06:29

CoolforKats · Today 06:13

Lot's of religions don't support gay marriage rights in fact many of those religions run schools but that doesn't mean they don't do ethical charity fund raising or that supporting this fund raising is being homophobic or promoting homophobia.

It's as ridiculous as saying attending Catholic mass contradicts one's views on reproductive freedom.

Interesting. The charity I’m describing is Stonewall (pre 2009) of course.

CoolforKats · Today 06:42

GeneralPeter · Today 06:29

Interesting. The charity I’m describing is Stonewall (pre 2009) of course.

Stonewall helped legalise gay marriage despite its historical opposition which wasn't based on bigotry but because they viewed it as a patriarchal oppressive institution designed to enforce rigid gender roles.

In any case the OP is referring to Stonewall the present charity not Stonewall the symbol of historic uprising.

GeneralPeter · Today 06:46

CoolforKats · Today 06:42

Stonewall helped legalise gay marriage despite its historical opposition which wasn't based on bigotry but because they viewed it as a patriarchal oppressive institution designed to enforce rigid gender roles.

In any case the OP is referring to Stonewall the present charity not Stonewall the symbol of historic uprising.

Having discussed it with Ben Summerskill at the time they were not his main reasons, though of course some gay people did/do think that.

TeenToTwenties · Today 06:57

Cool is misrepresenting.

The OP is merely informing the HT of concerns and asking for a change. She is not deciding for other parents, the HT has the decision.

Also I note Cool has not responded to the fact that Stonewall's guidance to schools is incorrect in law.

Bertiebiscuit · Today 06:58

SwirlyGates · Yesterday 21:09

You could point out that Stonewall have spent years giving incorrect advice that contravenes the law, in order to undermine women's rights.

You could simply point out that Stonewall has suffered from serious mission drift given that LGB people are completely equal to everyone now, and have in fact lost the support of mainstream lesbian and gay organisations by only focusing on "trans" issues, which are completely different and have not been respectful towards women and girls, in spite of laws that protect women's same sex spaces.

CoolforKats · Today 07:28

TeenToTwenties · Today 06:57

Cool is misrepresenting.

The OP is merely informing the HT of concerns and asking for a change. She is not deciding for other parents, the HT has the decision.

Also I note Cool has not responded to the fact that Stonewall's guidance to schools is incorrect in law.

Cool is misrepresenting.
The OP is merely informing the HT of concerns and asking for a change. She is not deciding for other parents, the HT has the decision.

Why doesn't she just let the parents decide for themselves if they want to abstain?

She want's to pressure the school into not even giving them a choice.

Also I note Cool has not responded to the fact that Stonewall's guidance to schools is incorrect in law.

As is the Catholic church's but that's got buggar all to do with whether their charity is worth giving to.

mylifeisexams · Today 07:57

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoByAgain · Yesterday 20:45

Email from his secondary school today that they are holding an own clothes day fundraiser to collect money for the charity Stonewall.

I really don’t want to go in heavy handed because a) I think it’s more powerful to change things with calm explanations than ranting, and b) I am assuming it’s coming from a place of ignorance not prejudice and c) I don’t want to make things difficult for my DS… but please help me draft an email setting out why this is a wholly inappropriate “charity” for a school to support? With links to evidence if possible! TIA

Your thread is being derailed by CoolforKats but you are completely right about this, stand firm and send the email.

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools nice one

TwoLoonsAndASprout · Today 08:07

@NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoByAgain, both Transgender Trend and Safe Schools Alliance have resources for parents who want to raise the issue of a school’s relationship with Stonewall.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page