Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

[happydappy2]

Having learned more about the sexual desires of males, AGP in particular. I now think that as women we have to push back and stop this madness. We live in a world where females are vulnerable to sexual assault by males-we are literally hunted by them. Combined with the safeguarding of children aspect....all parents I know explain to young children that if you get lost, look for a lady to help you, preferably another Mummy....I know men can wear a padded bra to achieve the look, but still the thought of males getting sexual pleasure by having fake boobs & their male tackle-just seems wrong. Am I alone in thinking this? Looking at society as a whole, I can't see any benefit to women and children of men being allowed to get silicone breast implants.....

Not here, no. There’s no point when the discussion isn’t open or meaningfuland people
are just trying to prove a point. I am happy in my values and beliefs and wish you peace and happiness

It is clear that @Kate8175is a fan of throwing out a meaningless mantra instead of actually explaining her position

People are simply asking you to explain yourself.

Why won't you do that?

Don't know about anyone else but I prefer Sex Realist

'Respect me by lying to me'. No ta.
Live long and prosper.

It’s THE GCs I object to. Dehumanising.

You can goad and provoke as much as you like. It shows that this space is not intended for open and meaningful discussion. My position is clear. I support trans rights and women’s safety. I believe both are compatible.

It is not new. It is like a script.

But at least the poster feels good about themselves and doesn't have to evaluate the incoherency and inconsistency of their position.

How do you see that working?

"I believe both are compatible."

And you cannot engage in any meaningful way in how they will work together, meaning that you are really just repeating a platitude that makes you feel better about yourself.

Yes me too.

Putting gender in the title focuses on what not important. I couldn't give two hoots about anyone's 'gender identity' they can knock themselves out.

When it comes to sex specific rights and spaces only sex matters.

How are they?

Women want their sex based rights upheld

You want to allow men to 'identify in' to these single sex spaces, thus making them mixed sex spaces, thus rendering women's sex based rights obsolete.

Tell us how you are going to square that circle?

I’m very happy to discuss in spaces where Meaningful and open discussion is possible but that isn’t here. Wishing you all peace and happiness

I hope with all my heart you never find yourself in my position

all the best.

As I said to you earlier. I am also a survivor

Of attempted murder? I am so sorry.

Wishing you peace

It is interesting that Kate won't discuss because they can't change our minds.

I don't want to change minds: i want a way forwards that doesn't throw women under the bus

I’ll never have peace again. That platitude is so offensive

How? We are open to talking about that here. God knows we try.

Keating I think this was a great example of 'I may or may not agree with you on how to protect female people, but I don't like the accurate way you say things and I don't like being asked indepth questions that I am not comfortable with so I will not answer. '

Same old, same old.

It never ceases to amaze me how often we ask how this peaceful coexistence may work so we can discuss it - and how often "reply comes there none" for absolutely batshit "reasons"

We've seen it so many times before.

Honestly, I don't think Kate's given it any proper thought at all. She wants to be seen as 'nice' and feel good about herself. She has responded to pressure from men to prioritise their demands over women's needs. She refuses to even engage with the idea that this is harmful to women - perhaps she genuinely doesn't realise the implications of her position. She hides behind platitudes to avoid having to do so.

If it's so straightforward, why not just say it, right?

See… this isn’t a space for open and meaningful discussion… you’re trying to goad, provoke, demean, make assumptions about my beliefs.

bye! Wishing you peace :)