Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

[happydappy2]

Having learned more about the sexual desires of males, AGP in particular. I now think that as women we have to push back and stop this madness. We live in a world where females are vulnerable to sexual assault by males-we are literally hunted by them. Combined with the safeguarding of children aspect....all parents I know explain to young children that if you get lost, look for a lady to help you, preferably another Mummy....I know men can wear a padded bra to achieve the look, but still the thought of males getting sexual pleasure by having fake boobs & their male tackle-just seems wrong. Am I alone in thinking this? Looking at society as a whole, I can't see any benefit to women and children of men being allowed to get silicone breast implants.....

How is it at all respectful for any male person to claim the usage of female language while female people are left with no language that uniquely describes their group? (That is what I call misogyny.)

What other group's philosophical belief do you, personally, act as if you believe in your language when that belief is not based in material reality?

So you dont believe women have any rights to single sex spaces then?

Why not?

Why do you feel men should be given access to women's things when they demand them?

Do you always privelege men over women?

What other laws is it ok to break?

So you respect that others can use the language that they wish to and you will not say or refer to their choices as being disrespectful in any way?

Why do you think it's 'respectful' to pretend men can be women?

Its not respectful. It's misogynistic and scientifically illiterate

I am beginning to believe this is another instance of 'there must be a way, you just haven't come up with it yet', or 'make everything mixed sex'.

so, this isn't you implying that not using demanded language is disrespectful?

I read this directly as you questioning why I and others cannot be respectful and use the female language a male person demands we use for them. Maybe you didn't intend it to be judgemental, but I don't see this post above as being 'respectful' towards the people you labelled as 'GCs'.

Ultimately it comes down to not wanting to say no to men.

And being happy to throw women under the bus to achieve that aim.

And the men in question not giving a fuck about women’s consent

Absolutely

Yes.

It also ultimately comes down to unthinkingly centring male people over female people while trying to deny doing that.

It happens often enough, doesn't it? The people who will never answer the questions because in doing so they have to either acknowledge that they centre male people over female people or they have to acknowledge that the solutions the feminists have suggested for at least a decade or two are appropriate but then also acknowledge that the male people are the people who are rejecting those solutions.

It also seems to come down to some posters believing misinformation to justify their position where they believe that sex is not binary, and they leverage some people's rare medical conditions as if it is some kind of relevant and scientific explanation about why a male person with a transgender identity can claim that they are in any way, a female person.

Who the fuck thinks it benefits female people to have the accurate language that describes female people start to mean the opposite to female people as well as meaning female people? Who the fuck thinks it benefits female people to have the word 'female' mean both male and female people?

It still shocks me the degree to which people just took leave of their senses on this topic.

Did it not occur to people that it's completely unreasonable to ...

a) agree a certain cohort of men are actually women despite all scientific facts and

b) hand over women's spaces to these men without even asking women if they consent.

I also think that the repetition of the mantras successfully keeps the belief in those platitudes going and gives those repeating them comfort so they don't really have to look for accurate evidence and evaluate it properly and understand with any depth the negative impacts on female people that the policies and behaviours that they support have.

The old 'what you say is accurate and factual but I don't like the way that you say it' or the 'I agree but I am nothing like you horrible women'.

Im not getting into a debate about this and answering all the questions - we have very different views on trans people. I believe trans women are women and trans men are men. Many of you believe otherwise. Im not here to change your mind and answering all your questions wouldn’t do that anyway. I wish you all peace and happiness

Why you post here then if it wasn’t to engage? I’d really like to have a meaningful discussion about the competing rights.

GCs call themselves GCs. I’m merely using the language they do about themselves.

So you believe these men have changed their sex?

How? Why? When do you think this happens?

As you are giving away women's hard won rights on the back of this belief, you must feel the evidence is very strong, yes?

It would be a lot easier to wish you peace and happiness also if you weren't selling women's rights to single sex spaces down the river.

What makes you think that's a moral thing to do?

I was posting here about the OP. I’ve expressed my views. I don’t find the discussion here open or approached in a meaningful manner so I won’t be continuing.

Wishing you peace and happiness

Can't you at least elaborate on why you've decided to prioritise men's demands over women's rights, needs and dignity?

Are you going to comment on your cavalier approach to women's sex based rights?

As they say out there in internet land: citation needed.

I see.

That is a typical answer.

Perhaps then you should not pretend to respect everyone's opinion while actually disrespecting them because they choose to not blindly follow the decisions that you, personally, have made. If you find yourself not being able to support your own decisions, that is something for you to come to terms with, but perhaps you should effectively telling people you don't respect their choices while declaring that everyone should have their beliefs respected.

It is an incoherent position.

Wishing you peace and happiness