Do transmen suffer from a form of autogynephilia or do they have 'genuine' gender dysphoria?

[GaIadriel]

Not looking to stir things up although I do appreciate this may be a controversial question.

I've read so much about how transwomen are often motivated by sexual perversions etc, and my kneejerk reaction is that it's certainly feasible. However, when I think about transmen it becomes a little bit more ambiguous.

I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's to 'escape from the pressures of being a female' as is often claimed because male hierarchy seems much more brutal and unforgiving to my eyes and seems to punish the 'weak' to a much greater extent.

When a female presents as male and uses male facilities (as many successfully do due to passing much more easily than most TW) what is their motivation for doing this?

Esteemed professional medical health organisations globally disagree including The Cass report despite extreme political pressure not to.

Aida, you keep saying this while ignoring the organisations that acknowledge no improvements in mental health. Why?

None of the research any of these organisations has done supports the policies you are talking about - and many places are rolling them back on that basis.

Your claim that the UK has not done so is just false, as you know.

ANyway - to get back on track with this thread - to me what this question really eveals is that the use of pornography among young women is something that needs to be urgently addressed.

And I think feminists have really dropped the ball here. Partly because they have tended to focused on the harms of standard film pornography on the actors, which is a very certainly very immediate concern.

But also for less compelling reasons. One being a tendency to dismiss the idea that written content is really pornography or can have an effect on the reader. And this comes out, I think, of the sex positivity movement that seems to have at times been embraced less critically than it ought to have been by feminists. Which claims that as long as something is a fantasy, or is freeing up women's repressed sexual desires, or whatever, it is good.

The fact is that reading this stuff, be it slash fiction, or "Morning Glory Milking Farm" is being used as a sexual outlet, and that does shape women's sexual and psychological response with a reinforcement loop just as it does with men, and it escalates just as it does with men.

Especially young women with little or no real sexual experience. There are kids - my cousin's daughter being one - that form their "trans" identity around this stuff, and it seems supported by their whole group of friends, the whole internet - even the cosplay groups they belong too seem to be entwined, (including furry groups in some cases.)

That study showed “no improvement in psychological function”. Did you read it?

Oh, it’s the rolling pin dude. Yeah, I’ll stop engaging. What a waste of time.

https://x.com/prof_curiosity1/status/2058056297593864606

This gives a good explanation on how bright young women are indoctrinated

OP, I hope you don’t mind the numerous different tangents this thread has taken. I am very grateful for this opportunity to discuss this very complex issue

-Especially young women with little or no real sexual experience. There are kids - my cousin's daughter being one - that form their "trans" identity around this stuff, and it seems supported by their whole group of friends, the whole internet - even the cosplay groups they belong too seem to be entwined, (including furry groups in some cases.)

Conversely, I’ve seen girls who identify as trans with the usual vulnerabilities (ASD/anxious/socially isolated) who then start considering their sexual proclivities within that trans bubble. Probably the end point is the same? These are all girls who have never even kissed someone, mind you.

Yes, if they haven't encountered all that before, they certainly will after they start interacting with that group

This is what is so heartbreaking. Young people who have never even kissed someone being able to self refer for medical treatment that will affect their fertility and sexual function. Therapy needs to be compulsory for this cohort