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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So it seems likely the EHRC guidance will be issued tomorrow Thursday 21st May …

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RhannionKPSS · 20/05/2026 16:55

That is if The Human Paperweight that is Philipson can make her mind up. What should we expect?

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FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 11:02

The written statement will be available here, it usually updates after business closes for the day: https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/#written-statements

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 11:03

SwirlyGates · 21/05/2026 10:17

I couldn't see anything on the BBC website, so I did a quick google of news stories in the last 24 hrs, and found:

Telegraph
GB News
Belfast News Letter
The Times
Daily Express

BBC, nothing. Guardian, nothing...

What is there to report? The written statement is not available yet. I'm sure they will once it is published.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/05/2026 11:13

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 11:02

The written statement will be available here, it usually updates after business closes for the day: https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/#written-statements

Does anyone know if the guidance will be included here for us to read? Or will we have to wait until the 40 days are over?

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 11:23

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 21/05/2026 11:13

Does anyone know if the guidance will be included here for us to read? Or will we have to wait until the 40 days are over?

I'm not sure what you mean. It's a written statement to the house and therefore a matter of public record like any other written statement. The commons does not conduct business in secret. You can pick up a copy from the Vote Office if you are in London or wait for it to be published on the site I posted - usually by the end of business as I said.

OhBuggerandArse · 21/05/2026 11:25

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 11:23

I'm not sure what you mean. It's a written statement to the house and therefore a matter of public record like any other written statement. The commons does not conduct business in secret. You can pick up a copy from the Vote Office if you are in London or wait for it to be published on the site I posted - usually by the end of business as I said.

The guidance itself isn't the statement, is it?

SquelchyFelch · 21/05/2026 11:25

So the written statement will be/include the guidance?

poodlemum01 · 21/05/2026 11:32

what time is it happening, where can we watch, can we read the guidance?

Sorry just catching up.

BiologicalRobot · 21/05/2026 11:41

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 10:59

There's nothing to filibuster, it's a written statement. It was laid before the house at start of business at 9.30 this morning.

Thank you, that's reassuring.

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 21/05/2026 11:46

So, when will we know if that guidance has actually be "laid"? Or, if it has been delayed again?

lcakethereforeIam · 21/05/2026 12:03

My concern is activist MPs stringing out the earlier bits of days business so there's no time for this to be done.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 12:07

lcakethereforeIam · 21/05/2026 12:03

My concern is activist MPs stringing out the earlier bits of days business so there's no time for this to be done.

see above, but it can't happen it's not like that luckily

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/05/2026 12:08

Try it in interpretive dance Fernando. 😂💐

It's the drop and run as predicted, so the general public see it after everyone's left for the holidays to minimise the fuss. Let's hope it's not been fucked about with as if they can they will.

Yes, men will be very very angry and sad that they can no longer insist they have a legal right to be with non consenting women who are in a state of undress. Frankly whatever. You're never going to convince such men that women are human too; it takes law.

Their gender needs can be met without sacrificing women's rights and needs to men who think their very very special inner selves matter more than anyone or anything else. And they will eventually get over this and we'll get on with sex based with additional facilities for the few who actually need them. Because the men who purely liked doing this for the sexual jollies will no longer have that avenue open.

There will probably be some buggering about by men incapable of facing their sex and the reality of needing to respect women as something different to them with equal needs and legal protections. We see it here; there's a genuine incapacity for some. But they're going to have to get their heads around it. And yes, probably some legal actions that require that men are removed and if necessary banned from spaces or face disciplinary processes. But that won't be for being trans, it will be for absolutely refusing to respect women's needed spaces. In about the same way that throwing a tantrum on the ground at the feet of a parking inspector won't get him to let you off a fine for using a disabled parking space when you're not entitled to, or a police officer won't let you steal someone else's phone even though you really really feel you need one.

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 12:09

They'll publish it on the "Votes and Proceedings" bit of the Parliament website at the end of the sitting day. The House rises at 5:30, so it'll be shortly after that.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:26

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 11:23

I'm not sure what you mean. It's a written statement to the house and therefore a matter of public record like any other written statement. The commons does not conduct business in secret. You can pick up a copy from the Vote Office if you are in London or wait for it to be published on the site I posted - usually by the end of business as I said.

Ooh, anyone near WM? Can you pop in and get one?!

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:27

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 12:09

They'll publish it on the "Votes and Proceedings" bit of the Parliament website at the end of the sitting day. The House rises at 5:30, so it'll be shortly after that.

Here? I can't see it listed, although there are several for today.

commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:29

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/05/2026 12:08

Try it in interpretive dance Fernando. 😂💐

It's the drop and run as predicted, so the general public see it after everyone's left for the holidays to minimise the fuss. Let's hope it's not been fucked about with as if they can they will.

Yes, men will be very very angry and sad that they can no longer insist they have a legal right to be with non consenting women who are in a state of undress. Frankly whatever. You're never going to convince such men that women are human too; it takes law.

Their gender needs can be met without sacrificing women's rights and needs to men who think their very very special inner selves matter more than anyone or anything else. And they will eventually get over this and we'll get on with sex based with additional facilities for the few who actually need them. Because the men who purely liked doing this for the sexual jollies will no longer have that avenue open.

There will probably be some buggering about by men incapable of facing their sex and the reality of needing to respect women as something different to them with equal needs and legal protections. We see it here; there's a genuine incapacity for some. But they're going to have to get their heads around it. And yes, probably some legal actions that require that men are removed and if necessary banned from spaces or face disciplinary processes. But that won't be for being trans, it will be for absolutely refusing to respect women's needed spaces. In about the same way that throwing a tantrum on the ground at the feet of a parking inspector won't get him to let you off a fine for using a disabled parking space when you're not entitled to, or a police officer won't let you steal someone else's phone even though you really really feel you need one.

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I predict a piss protest. Maybe some moob flashing.

Nothing says 'I'm a lady' like pissing everywhere and a bit of indecent exposure.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:30

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 21/05/2026 11:46

So, when will we know if that guidance has actually be "laid"? Or, if it has been delayed again?

Chicken Hen GIF

Someone needs to check under the chickens.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 21/05/2026 12:31

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:29

I predict a piss protest. Maybe some moob flashing.

Nothing says 'I'm a lady' like pissing everywhere and a bit of indecent exposure.

And chalk some dicks on the pavement and smash a few windows for good measure.

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 12:33

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:27

Here? I can't see it listed, although there are several for today.

commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/

Yes, but what you've got at the moment is stuff that's up for discussion. I would expect the guidance to appear at the end of the day.

Bunging it out at the end of the day just before recess would be typical.

The thing I'm not sure about is the 40 day window for members to challenge the guidance - I assume that's 40 sitting days of the House, so that could take us well into September.

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 12:36

@OpheliaWitchoftheWoods I'm not sure why you say that. How would you expect it to be released? A written statement is perfectly proper for this sort of thing.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/05/2026 12:37

GreyskySexRealistsky · 21/05/2026 12:31

And chalk some dicks on the pavement and smash a few windows for good measure.

Well obviously.

Threats of sexual violence (to women, from men, while claiming sex isn't a thing) also likely to be scattering about like confetti.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/05/2026 12:38

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 12:36

@OpheliaWitchoftheWoods I'm not sure why you say that. How would you expect it to be released? A written statement is perfectly proper for this sort of thing.

I was joking, it's ok.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 12:40

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 12:33

Yes, but what you've got at the moment is stuff that's up for discussion. I would expect the guidance to appear at the end of the day.

Bunging it out at the end of the day just before recess would be typical.

The thing I'm not sure about is the 40 day window for members to challenge the guidance - I assume that's 40 sitting days of the House, so that could take us well into September.

actually it's not sitting days

So - if no shenanigans - the 40 days of being laid ends on 9th or 10th July. In force date is different.Think they have to pick one....

I had to get Chat GPT to work it out for me, so pinch of salt, but I think the logic is right:

Assuming it was laid today, Thursday 21 May 2026, the 40-day parliamentary period should expire around:
Thursday 9 July 2026
or possibly Friday 10 July 2026 if the counting starts the day after laying.
But the important point is: it does not automatically come into force at midnight on day 40.
Under section 14 of the Equality Act 2006, if neither House passes a resolution disapproving the draft within the 40-day period, the EHRC may issue the code, and it then comes into force on the date set by the Secretary of State by order.

The EHRC also says that after Parliament’s 40-day review, if Parliament does not disapprove it, the government will set a date for it to come into force, and the EHRC will then publish it.

Why not simply 30 June?
Because Parliament rises for Whitsun recess on Thursday 21 May 2026 and returns on Monday 1 June 2026. The 40-day calculation excludes periods when both Houses are adjourned for more than four days.

So, in practical terms:
Laid: Thursday 21 May 2026
Whitsun recess pause: Friday 22 May to Sunday 31 May
40-day window likely ends: Thursday 9 or Friday 10 July 2026
Comes into force: only once the Secretary of State makes the commencement order, likely shortly after if there is no successful motion to reject.
So the clean answer is:
It should be capable of coming into force from around 9/10 July 2026, but only once the Secretary of State formally brings it into force by order.

Floisme · 21/05/2026 12:43

Can we celebrate when it happens do you think, or will that earn a rebuke for unseemly behaviour?

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 21/05/2026 12:46

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 12:30

Someone needs to check under the chickens.

Actually, I was thinking more about the rather more coarse meaning of "laid" not sure what that says about me but yes. Chickens too 🤣