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So it seems likely the EHRC guidance will be issued tomorrow Thursday 21st May …

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RhannionKPSS · 20/05/2026 16:55

That is if The Human Paperweight that is Philipson can make her mind up. What should we expect?

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FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 12:46

There are a total of 15 written statements including this one being laid before the house today, and so far only 6 have been published. The others will be in due course over the day. Long ones (which I assume the Equality guidance one will be) presumably take longer to get into a web-publishable form. You can check them here: https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements?Page=1&House=Commons&Expanded=True

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 21/05/2026 12:48

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 12:40

actually it's not sitting days

So - if no shenanigans - the 40 days of being laid ends on 9th or 10th July. In force date is different.Think they have to pick one....

I had to get Chat GPT to work it out for me, so pinch of salt, but I think the logic is right:

Assuming it was laid today, Thursday 21 May 2026, the 40-day parliamentary period should expire around:
Thursday 9 July 2026
or possibly Friday 10 July 2026 if the counting starts the day after laying.
But the important point is: it does not automatically come into force at midnight on day 40.
Under section 14 of the Equality Act 2006, if neither House passes a resolution disapproving the draft within the 40-day period, the EHRC may issue the code, and it then comes into force on the date set by the Secretary of State by order.

The EHRC also says that after Parliament’s 40-day review, if Parliament does not disapprove it, the government will set a date for it to come into force, and the EHRC will then publish it.

Why not simply 30 June?
Because Parliament rises for Whitsun recess on Thursday 21 May 2026 and returns on Monday 1 June 2026. The 40-day calculation excludes periods when both Houses are adjourned for more than four days.

So, in practical terms:
Laid: Thursday 21 May 2026
Whitsun recess pause: Friday 22 May to Sunday 31 May
40-day window likely ends: Thursday 9 or Friday 10 July 2026
Comes into force: only once the Secretary of State makes the commencement order, likely shortly after if there is no successful motion to reject.
So the clean answer is:
It should be capable of coming into force from around 9/10 July 2026, but only once the Secretary of State formally brings it into force by order.

All this just to say: you know what? you're not going to be allowed into women's spaces anymore a) because it was never lawful, and b) because you.are.men.

If we had a single politician in power with a backbone, it would never have reached this point.

Cantunseeit · 21/05/2026 12:52

Thanks @SingleSexSpacesInSchools for the likely timing. But uh oh for the process. If it’s taken eight months to lay the EHRC’s guidance, how long might it take for the government to actually do something to make it live? What with leadership challenges, summer recess and much busy and important work to be done in parliament that isn’t this, I can see a long wait ahead. Hope I’m wrong.

Apollo441 · 21/05/2026 12:56

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/05/2026 12:08

Try it in interpretive dance Fernando. 😂💐

It's the drop and run as predicted, so the general public see it after everyone's left for the holidays to minimise the fuss. Let's hope it's not been fucked about with as if they can they will.

Yes, men will be very very angry and sad that they can no longer insist they have a legal right to be with non consenting women who are in a state of undress. Frankly whatever. You're never going to convince such men that women are human too; it takes law.

Their gender needs can be met without sacrificing women's rights and needs to men who think their very very special inner selves matter more than anyone or anything else. And they will eventually get over this and we'll get on with sex based with additional facilities for the few who actually need them. Because the men who purely liked doing this for the sexual jollies will no longer have that avenue open.

There will probably be some buggering about by men incapable of facing their sex and the reality of needing to respect women as something different to them with equal needs and legal protections. We see it here; there's a genuine incapacity for some. But they're going to have to get their heads around it. And yes, probably some legal actions that require that men are removed and if necessary banned from spaces or face disciplinary processes. But that won't be for being trans, it will be for absolutely refusing to respect women's needed spaces. In about the same way that throwing a tantrum on the ground at the feet of a parking inspector won't get him to let you off a fine for using a disabled parking space when you're not entitled to, or a police officer won't let you steal someone else's phone even though you really really feel you need one.

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To be honest I think it will broadly go back to how it was before in toilets. Men who quietly go about thier business (old money transexuals) will probably be tolerated but at least women now have the right to have any man behaving in a creepy/inappropriate manner removed.
I think in changing rooms it is a big fat NO.
This right is important and quite frankly anyone opposing women's right to say no is a red flag.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/05/2026 12:58

It’s just the guidance though, the law around single sex spaces is already in force as clarified by the SC and the GLP case. If TRA sympathetic organisations breach it, it’s not going to look good for them if challenged in court that they ignored the interim guidance they have and the general direction of travel.

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 13:01

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools That's correct in that the 2006 Act says:

(8)Where a draft is laid before Parliament under subsection (7)(a)(ii), if neither House passes a resolution disapproving the draft within 40 days—

(a)the Commission may issue the code in the form of the draft, and

(b)it shall come into force in accordance with provision made by the Secretary of State by order.

So I wondered what "days" means in this context, and it took me to the Statutory Instruments Act 1946. This sets out that 40 days means calendar days, not sitting days, but the clock is paused when Parliament is prorogued or dissolved, or when both Houses are adjourned for more than four days.

On the face of it, it looks like the 40 days should be up before summer recess starts on 16 July, but I'm still a bit suspicious of whether they might find some way to run down the clock.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 21/05/2026 13:05

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 13:01

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools That's correct in that the 2006 Act says:

(8)Where a draft is laid before Parliament under subsection (7)(a)(ii), if neither House passes a resolution disapproving the draft within 40 days—

(a)the Commission may issue the code in the form of the draft, and

(b)it shall come into force in accordance with provision made by the Secretary of State by order.

So I wondered what "days" means in this context, and it took me to the Statutory Instruments Act 1946. This sets out that 40 days means calendar days, not sitting days, but the clock is paused when Parliament is prorogued or dissolved, or when both Houses are adjourned for more than four days.

On the face of it, it looks like the 40 days should be up before summer recess starts on 16 July, but I'm still a bit suspicious of whether they might find some way to run down the clock.

I have nothing but suspicion, and will continue to feel this even after we see the guidance. I want things to go back to how they were before so many people lost their collective minds, but it probably won't happen until most of the first tranche of younger "believers" have their own children, or are hounded out of their jobs for not being quite RSOH as they should be.

ProfPerformativeBewildermentOBE · 21/05/2026 13:10

Floisme · 21/05/2026 12:43

Can we celebrate when it happens do you think, or will that earn a rebuke for unseemly behaviour?

Silly goose!

There’s no such thing as an acceptable celebration.

It’s not what we say, it’s the way we say it, dontcha know?

SternJoyousBeev2 · 21/05/2026 13:45

ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 21/05/2026 10:42

Of course Kate - she insists she is always being mistaken for a man. I don't believe her

Why is she conflating some people thinking she is a man with allowing transwomen into female SSS....unless she thinks that transwomen look like men?? 🤔

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/05/2026 13:45

Apollo441 · 21/05/2026 12:56

To be honest I think it will broadly go back to how it was before in toilets. Men who quietly go about thier business (old money transexuals) will probably be tolerated but at least women now have the right to have any man behaving in a creepy/inappropriate manner removed.
I think in changing rooms it is a big fat NO.
This right is important and quite frankly anyone opposing women's right to say no is a red flag.

I don't think that is the case, nor was it ever. Even old school transsexuals are generally and very clearly - visibly male. If anything......that previous assumption that they could use women's facilities will now be very firmly rendered inadmissable. Especially that there is now heightened awareness of the issue.

Raquelos · 21/05/2026 13:48

They really are doing a dump and run at the end of the day on this, all the written statements for today, except that one, are already posted here https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/2026-05-21 with a glaring omission at number 14.

Let's hope it is just a case of cynical politicking and nothing else.

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 14:07

Raquelos · 21/05/2026 13:48

They really are doing a dump and run at the end of the day on this, all the written statements for today, except that one, are already posted here https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/2026-05-21 with a glaring omission at number 14.

Let's hope it is just a case of cynical politicking and nothing else.

7, 9 and 11 are also missing from that list. There are 15 in total today.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 14:18

I don't post this to mock anyone, but this is madness

How did people come to think anyone wanted them dead, because women want toilets without men in?

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1tjjurb/fucking_freaking_out_over_the_guidance/

It's just awful I feel so sorry for these people, they have been let down so badly

So it seems likely the EHRC guidance will be issued tomorrow Thursday 21st May …
BettyBooper · 21/05/2026 14:24

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 14:18

I don't post this to mock anyone, but this is madness

How did people come to think anyone wanted them dead, because women want toilets without men in?

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1tjjurb/fucking_freaking_out_over_the_guidance/

It's just awful I feel so sorry for these people, they have been let down so badly

If a collective group of people with fragile mental health truly believe society (and in particular, women) wants them dead, we are all in a very dangerous position.

I wish the government would take this more seriously.

Raquelos · 21/05/2026 14:24

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 14:07

7, 9 and 11 are also missing from that list. There are 15 in total today.

Indeed, although I think the additional oral statements cover at least one of those.

It is a source of continuing frustration that my trust in the very basics has been eroded by the last few bat shit crazy years to the point that I now have any doubts that this will happen as expected. It's exhausting.

Anyway, you seem to have insider (or maybe just much better!) knowledge of the mechanics of how this works, so I wonder if you could point me to the published running order for today. I could swear I have seen it in passing, but of course I just cannot find it now I am actually looking for it. Thank you 🙂

WallaceinAnderland · 21/05/2026 14:27

BettyBooper · 21/05/2026 14:24

If a collective group of people with fragile mental health truly believe society (and in particular, women) wants them dead, we are all in a very dangerous position.

I wish the government would take this more seriously.

I can't get the logic of they can't use the gents because they can't mix with male people but women should be happy mixing with male people.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 21/05/2026 14:29

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 14:18

I don't post this to mock anyone, but this is madness

How did people come to think anyone wanted them dead, because women want toilets without men in?

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1tjjurb/fucking_freaking_out_over_the_guidance/

It's just awful I feel so sorry for these people, they have been let down so badly

A lot of children and teenagers have been very badly let down over the past decade or so especially, and by teachers, governments, charities, and even sometimes their own parents. Most of them seem to be able to cope with their lives only within a very small, rigidly-controlled atmosphere of power and coddling. Now they are being thrust into the Real World with no tools at all. I see this all the time with my family member and her friends. So I have no doubt that some of them actually believe that everyone is out to get them.

Others, however, seem to revel in the fear and hostility activists stir up for them online.

Who knows which is which on social media?

SternJoyousBeev2 · 21/05/2026 14:41

@BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth agree with this.

But also I wish that orgs like Stonewall could be held responsible for their successful efforts to 'get ahead' of the law. They have milked public bodies by selling training and diversity programmes. They have sold lies to a generation.

FernandoSor · 21/05/2026 14:45

Raquelos · 21/05/2026 14:24

Indeed, although I think the additional oral statements cover at least one of those.

It is a source of continuing frustration that my trust in the very basics has been eroded by the last few bat shit crazy years to the point that I now have any doubts that this will happen as expected. It's exhausting.

Anyway, you seem to have insider (or maybe just much better!) knowledge of the mechanics of how this works, so I wonder if you could point me to the published running order for today. I could swear I have seen it in passing, but of course I just cannot find it now I am actually looking for it. Thank you 🙂

It's all in the order paper published here: https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/Document/104766/Html?subType=Standard

But written statements don't have a set time slot at which they appear. They don't exist in the order of business as it were: no-one is standing up to announce that a written statement has been delivered to the house. The vast majority of the house's time today will be spent on the second reading of the Steel Nationalisation Bill.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 21/05/2026 14:52

SternJoyousBeev2 · 21/05/2026 14:41

@BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth agree with this.

But also I wish that orgs like Stonewall could be held responsible for their successful efforts to 'get ahead' of the law. They have milked public bodies by selling training and diversity programmes. They have sold lies to a generation.

Absolutely. I'm not sure I ever saw an answer to the "can Stonewall be sued" question (I'm sure someone can point me in the right direction), but if it were up to me, everyone who agreed to follow Stonewall's illegal directives (and force all their employees to go along with them) would be personally sued, and everyone still adhering to "Stonewall law" would be fired immediately without severance.

If this were the US, someone would already have sued Stonewall, or set up a class action suit. It's not the same here in the UK, however, because in the main, in the US, you are responsible only for your own costs if you lose, so the risk is lower, if you see what I mean. It has led to a much more litigious society, but it has its benefits as well.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 15:00

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 14:18

I don't post this to mock anyone, but this is madness

How did people come to think anyone wanted them dead, because women want toilets without men in?

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1tjjurb/fucking_freaking_out_over_the_guidance/

It's just awful I feel so sorry for these people, they have been let down so badly

Oh, dear.

This person needs help. Delusions being supported and affirmed is not good for mental health.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 15:02

Raquelos · 21/05/2026 13:48

They really are doing a dump and run at the end of the day on this, all the written statements for today, except that one, are already posted here https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/2026-05-21 with a glaring omission at number 14.

Let's hope it is just a case of cynical politicking and nothing else.

WTF?

What has she done with # 14?!

So it seems likely the EHRC guidance will be issued tomorrow Thursday 21st May …
ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 15:03

Bridget! Bridge! it's somehow fallen down the back of the banquettes in the HoC! Hey!

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 15:03

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 15:02

WTF?

What has she done with # 14?!

Are they off tomorrow or something I don;t know about?

KG74 · 21/05/2026 15:08

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 15:03

Are they off tomorrow or something I don;t know about?

It is the Whitsun recess which always ends on the Thursday before the bank holiday I believe. Probably a left-over from when it took several days to get back to their constituencies