Unite the Kingdom - LWS/WRN

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I am just wondering why Tommy Robinson is so appealing to a number of sex-realist women. Kellie Jay Keen spoke at the event. My local LWS group are fully supportive, as are the leaders of my local WRN groups.
Is anyone else finding it is harder to network with gender critical/sex realist women without them also being Reform/Restore/Tommy Robinson supporters?

Do you have evidence that Muslims are more likely to cheat the system than Christians, atheists etc?

Nobody is trying to ‘intimidate Muslims’ for a start. But if it makes you happy we’ve been saying “no parallel legal systems” - for anyone. Abuse of the system by people like the Imam caught marrying underage girls will spoil it for all.

The main difference with whatever arrangements Jews and random Christian groups have and the Sharia courts is intention and volume.

Orthodox Jews and niche Christian groups are teeny tiny in number. Muslims already represent 6% of the population that we know of and since that count many more have arrived or been born here.

The difference in intention is stated by many Muslim leaders both in this country and abroad. Islam is a religious, political, social and military framework. The aim of some proponents of Islam is to either convert, subjugate or kill any non Muslim. In countries where the extreme Islamists have gained power, sharia law is comprehensive and brutal. We already have British MPs who are pushing for sharia law to be broadened here.

After the next election there will be more such MPs as Muslim communities have an extremely high turnout (and according to the independent monitor are more likely to commit electoral fraud). The tipping point is almost here.

Some Muslims with those views live here and preach hatred and conquest in their mosques. Unfortunately there are few consequences as our authorities turn a blind eye for ‘community cohesion’ purposes.

The Muslims with extreme views are exactly the people that some other Muslims came here to get away from but no one seems bothered about them. Maybe they are not shouting loud enough or aggrieved enough?

I don’t know why so many people dismiss the stated aims of the extremists as impossible and mock those who highlight it. I think it is the height of arrogance, mainly on the part of the left. It’s not like they haven’t already been successful in many formerly free Christian or moderate Muslim countries. Many in power here are currently enabling these people and suppressing dissent.

I keep hearing foreign commentators observing the many ridiculous situations (like us providing a little London crash pad aka council house for Sierra Leone’s First Lady) and saying that we are monumentally stupid.

I’d be inclined to agree.

We weren’t monumentally stupid to provide asylum to a teenage girl fleeing a forced marriage. There are certainly questions to be asked about Bio’s continued tenancy, but that seems to be how council’s monitor tenancies when the rent is being paid.

I didn't say they were more but just as likely, why do you have evidence that they're not like others.

Criticising them is a bit different from making laws against them. I am happy to criticise all religions, but I wouldn't support making them illegal.

I didn’t say we were.

We are monumentally stupid to allow a woman of foreign nationality with assets of £millions and a presidential palace to live in to keep a council house which she reportedly hasn’t even used for 3 years.

Indeed stupid; but the foreign nationality is pretty well irrelevant to the stupidity.

And she might well have bought the flat; in which case blame Thatcher.

But it was the granting of asylum that has led to the subsequent situation. Bio came to the U.K. made a life here. Had children here, who are British citizens. There have been some reports that Bio also holds a British passport.

There are debates to be had around council tenancy, and it certainly seems true that the home isn’t Bio’s primary residence and so she isn’t entitled to retain the tenancy.

You seem to be conflating several issues so you can complain about ‘foreigners’.

We are monumentally stupid to allow a woman of foreign nationality with assets of £millions and a presidential palace to live in to keep a council house which she reportedly hasn’t even used for 3 years.

I haven’t commented on her asylum status or her British passport though. I just said that we shouldn’t let her have the .

You seem to have not bothered to read my post properly in your rush to accuse me of confecting reasons to ‘complain about foreigners’.

There are debates to be had around council tenancy

There certainly are! She may (or may not) be among the council house tenants with a higher level of assets but she is definitely not the only one profiting from taxpayer subsidised housing while 18,000 are on the waiting list in that area alone. There are many reports of foreign tenants abusing the system and people subletting on Airbnb etc.

I know several people who are in council housing with two decent paying full time jobs and way more income than many but paying 1/3 of the rent or mortgage compared to the rest of us. It’s not sustainable or what the system was designed for.

The only material fact is that she is not living in the flat. If she was poor, white and living permanently in Luton it would be just as much a breach of the rules; assuming she hasn't actually used her right to buy the flat.

https://www.staffordshire.police.uk/news/staffordshire/news/2026/2026/man-charged-with-murder-following-serious-assault/

https://metro.co.uk/2026/05/27/family-will-never-get-over-death-pub-owner-killed-punch-up-bar-28543779/

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2026/05/27/billy-allison-murder-charge/

Billy Allison, founder of far-right hate group "raise the flags" that for the past year has been illegally attaching flags to Council lampposts without permission- has been charged with murder.

Any port in a storm and the left have been throwing gender-critical (realist) women under a bus for at least a decade.

And TR exposed the shocking, industrial extent of the rape gangs. I don’t think he’s a racist at all. He’s done women a favour here.

The left have swallowed the hysterical
hogswill about him wholesale.

I think Lowe is honourable and hardworking. And of course, if you don’t agree then put your vote elsewhere. It’s still a free country. Just.

And TR exposed the shocking, industrial extent of the rape gangs.

No, he didn't. It was Andrew Norfolk, of The Times who investigated and exposed it. TR has endangered the trials of rapists and rape gangs.

Yes, AN did a sterling job while many other journalists were warned off, threatened or turned a blind eye.

But TR has consistently spoken out and because he is who he is, it’s easier to sneer at the messenger rather than listen to his uncomfortable truths.

I actually think that the media and politicians have scored an obvious own goal with Tommy Robinson, because for some time he was one of the few high profile voices articulating what was happening to young girls, while more mainstream voices denied it or downplayed it. Now he’s turned out to have been absolutely right he has a level of legitimacy that, in a more sensible world, he wouldn’t. This is all rather symptomatic of a political class that consistently fails to address tricky problems head on because of the political costs.

I think people have appeared to move to the right because although they are socialists of one colour or another they are aware that sex matters, that children usually need two parents (sex doesn't matter), that babies need their mothers and that surrogacy is an abomination, schools need to have safeguarding in place for all DC (which means discipline in the sense of rules which are followed through on if broken), possibly believe in systematic synthetic phonics and a knowledge rich curriculum (not just vague skills like resilience and critical thinking) i.e. they are what are now called 'social conservatives'.
I can't remember how the grooming gangs (rape gangs, actually) were revealed, only noticing it with the Jay report, but my late husband remembers as a Youth Worker in the 70s that working class parents worried their young teenage daughters were being courted by immigrants were deemed to be racist - he remembered no suggestion that the parents objected specifically to their daughters going out with people of other races but that something about the relationships triggered them, possibly a realisation that the social norms were different and that the young men in question were not allowed to court the daughters of their fellow immigrants.
I do remember that Tommy Robinson nearly overturned the proper trial of one lot of groomers by demonstrating outside the court - that was stupid.
The Famous Artist Birdie Rose also went to the UTK march and my newly licensed lay pastor preached on the march last Sunday, supporting the call for supporting our nation but that we could do this without division. (Sadly, this past Sunday our ordinand - a young woman - preached on the Trinity and compared the Rublev icon, which shows the Trinity as 3 identical angels wearing different coloured robes, comparing it to a modern rendition by Meg Wroe (at Iona) where the figures are of different races and ages and, she said, 'all genders' - ouch!)
Meanwhile the Labour Party locally turned up on my doorstep in the shape of a middle aged, m/c man asking me if I was my DS because he was invited to a cream tea next Sunday. I said I was demonstrably not my DS and we had a conversation about the failures of the party, of which I am not longer a member. I did quite fancy the cream tea and said I would rejoin if members of the party would come and weed my garden. He did not take up the offer - Labour has enough weeds, perhaps.

I agree with you on all counts except about the First Lady of Sierra Leone, who seems to have a tenancy because she sought asylum to escape a forced marriage when a young girl. If that is the case her asylum was correct - she should no longer hold the tenancy but having it in the first place was fine.
It's not fine that radical Muslims want to impose sharia law on others. Nor is it fine for Muslims to be making illegal marriages (I met some years ago a young Muslim who said that Muslims did not have to obey UK laws on marriage) and this should be treated as the crime it is.

Yes, I should have been clearer. I have no issue with her being housed as a refugee.

I do have an issue with her becoming the First Lady of SL, leaving the country and still being housed in taxpayer subsidised accommodation.

We need to have another look at this sort of housing in general. I know several people in our lovely village who are in council houses while earning very good salaries. I’m very pleased that they are successful in their lives but they clearly no longer heed the helping hand of the state. Meanwhile youngsters have to leave the area as there is no affordable housing and the waiting list is enormous.

But that’s a conversation for another day.

I’m also becoming increasingly disappointed with KJK. All she seems to post at the moment is racist and anti-immigrant stuff.