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YouGov Poll shows what parliament would look like if only women could vote

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FireBucket · 12/05/2026 20:50

Picturisation of the voting intentions of women aged 18-50 shows a parliament overwhelmingly stuffed with parties which are openly pro-trans.

When will the gender critical movement let go of the disingenuous narrative that they speak for or represent women when they clearly don’t?

YouGov Poll shows what parliament would look like if only women could vote
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DialSquare · 13/05/2026 17:08

Datun · 13/05/2026 09:24

Dinnertable discourse in my circles.🤣

Do you mean when your mum calls you to tell you your tea is ready?

Haha!!!

The problem (for TRAs) with us working class people is that we’re not gullible enough to be taken in by the bollocks of Gender Ideology.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/05/2026 17:11

A belief, not The Belief.

Enforced participation is harassment.

The suggested answer (again, repeating consistent theme emerging) is a gender neutral third space. In which people who have that belief can practice it, and those who do not have that belief are able to access a facility unharassed.

Seems a good answer. Accessible and equal provision for all. And that's achieved without the guidance escaping Bridget.

Subtext/obvious extension: failure to provide single sex alongside gender neutral is equally likely therefore to be unacceptable harassment/discrimination against women who do not share this belief and require single sex provision for access. So making everything gender neutral isn't likely to fly either. This has to involve parallel provision.

BonfireLady · 13/05/2026 17:20

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/05/2026 17:11

A belief, not The Belief.

Enforced participation is harassment.

The suggested answer (again, repeating consistent theme emerging) is a gender neutral third space. In which people who have that belief can practice it, and those who do not have that belief are able to access a facility unharassed.

Seems a good answer. Accessible and equal provision for all. And that's achieved without the guidance escaping Bridget.

Subtext/obvious extension: failure to provide single sex alongside gender neutral is equally likely therefore to be unacceptable harassment/discrimination against women who do not share this belief and require single sex provision for access. So making everything gender neutral isn't likely to fly either. This has to involve parallel provision.

Yessssss hopefully people don't have to declare a "gender critical belief" in order to claim harassment. I don't have one.

I simply don't believe that everyone has a gender identity. My lack of belief is protected in law, thanks to the Forstater case:
https://x.com/anyabike/status/1749777661855940901?s=19

To force me to accept others' belief in gender identity (e.g. by telling me I need to accept TW in the ladies' facilities) is harassment by virtue of my lack of belief i.e. it counts as enforced participation. At least I'd hope it does.

Edited for clarity.

Anya Palmer (@anyabike) on X

In Forstater in the Employment Appeal Tribunal, Mr Justice Choudhury held that as "gender identity belief" is protected, so too is lack of belief in gender identity. So people who do not believe in "gender identity" are protected in law, whether trans...

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1749777661855940901?s=19

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/05/2026 17:30

I'm no good with links but Maya Forstater on X:

Maya Forstater

@MForstater
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The claimant "LS" claimed that NHS England indirectly discriminated against women, Muslim women and women with PTSD relating to male sexual violence because of their policy of permitting trans staff to use the facilities of their gender identity at their offices. 💥 The Tribunal decided that the claimant’s complaint of indirect sex discrimination succeeded because the respondent failed to show that its policy was “a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim”. - there is no express legal right for a trans person to use the single-sex facilities of their gender identity under the EqA or under Workplace Regs 1992; - the respondent’s aims (including its aim of respecting the gender identity of its staff) were legitimate. But there was no express consideration of the impact on female staff. - the respondent should have considered an alternative measure i.e. permitting trans staff to use gender neutral facilities. The Tribunal concluded that doing so would have had a lesser impact on its much larger number of female staff.

soupycustard · 13/05/2026 17:39

Reading that excerpt of the judgment deminstrates how reasonable the GC position is.
a. Think about women's rights as well as trans-identified male rights; and
b. Provide 3rd/4th/whatever spaces for those who think they're too special for sex-based facilities.
It's so simple.

InstantlyBella · 14/05/2026 08:58

BonfireLady · 13/05/2026 15:49

With luck, by voting this way all these droves of 18-50 year old women will also get bigger boobs, learn about how the Red Cross can support them and not have to pay council tax for 3 years.

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Repeating redtop lies in order to discredit the head of the Green Party won't get you anywhere I'm afraid. We sense the blood in the water and we won't stop. Inshallah, he will be our Prime Minister in 2029 and no amount of dredging up pathetic lies from the past will affect that whatsoever. We are vibing all the way to no.10.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 09:04

InstantlyBella · 14/05/2026 08:58

Repeating redtop lies in order to discredit the head of the Green Party won't get you anywhere I'm afraid. We sense the blood in the water and we won't stop. Inshallah, he will be our Prime Minister in 2029 and no amount of dredging up pathetic lies from the past will affect that whatsoever. We are vibing all the way to no.10.

You do know that MN bans time wasters, yes?

You're getting boring now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/05/2026 09:05

The shark is a little speck in the distance below.

chickenss · 14/05/2026 09:07

nutmeg7 · 12/05/2026 21:03

People decide who to vote for across a huge range of issues.

It’s not a proxy for “Are you ok with male people in women’s single sex spaces/ refuges/ prisons/ taking women’s awards/ taking women’s prizes in sport?”

It could just as easily be a proxy for “Do you want a more progressive taxation system?”

If you want to know what women think about allowing all males who say they are trans into women’s spaces/ sports/ refuges/ prisons etc, then you would have to ask them that instead of just asking about voting intentions.

I know you are desperate to scold us for wrong think, but this is a stretch.

Obviously that. And of course, op knows it.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 14/05/2026 09:12

InstantlyBella · 14/05/2026 08:58

Repeating redtop lies in order to discredit the head of the Green Party won't get you anywhere I'm afraid. We sense the blood in the water and we won't stop. Inshallah, he will be our Prime Minister in 2029 and no amount of dredging up pathetic lies from the past will affect that whatsoever. We are vibing all the way to no.10.

Repeating redtop lies in order to discredit the head of the Green Party won't get you anywhere I'm afraid.

Haha. Walter Titty doesn't need any help from the redtops; he's doing a great job of discrediting himself.

InstantlyBella · 14/05/2026 09:12

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InconvenientlyMaterial · 14/05/2026 13:24

If the gender dudes were confident of genuine wider support for their fundamentalist neo religion, they'd expend less effort on doxxing, cancelling and silencing dissent.

It's just so dull. Can't you guys queer your methods of dealing with heretical women? Scolding, shaming and coercing is at least 5 centuries old.

BonfireLady · 14/05/2026 13:37

InstantlyBella · 14/05/2026 08:58

Repeating redtop lies in order to discredit the head of the Green Party won't get you anywhere I'm afraid. We sense the blood in the water and we won't stop. Inshallah, he will be our Prime Minister in 2029 and no amount of dredging up pathetic lies from the past will affect that whatsoever. We are vibing all the way to no.10.

😂

I have genuinely no idea if this is a comedy thread or you're being serious. But either way, I love this response and the value it has provided. Thank you!

Vibing all the way to number 10 sounds fun to me 💃 Not particularly helpful politics, but that's never stopped anyone before.... Looking at you, Boris 👀

Igneococcus · 14/05/2026 15:34

BonfireLady · 14/05/2026 13:37

😂

I have genuinely no idea if this is a comedy thread or you're being serious. But either way, I love this response and the value it has provided. Thank you!

Vibing all the way to number 10 sounds fun to me 💃 Not particularly helpful politics, but that's never stopped anyone before.... Looking at you, Boris 👀

I wonder if Zack has realized yet that he is only a useful idiot to some people.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/05/2026 16:21

Igneococcus · 14/05/2026 15:34

I wonder if Zack has realized yet that he is only a useful idiot to some people.

He's certainly providing Boris Johnson levels of entertainment as his escalating lies are exposed. I love all the organisations quietly pointing out that he doesn't represent them as he claims. 😂

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2026 17:03

InconvenientlyMaterial · 14/05/2026 13:24

If the gender dudes were confident of genuine wider support for their fundamentalist neo religion, they'd expend less effort on doxxing, cancelling and silencing dissent.

It's just so dull. Can't you guys queer your methods of dealing with heretical women? Scolding, shaming and coercing is at least 5 centuries old.

Womenhate is eternal, as the saying goes.

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