Looking for a gym with female-only changing rooms by sex: a journey

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I am trying to find a gym in my city (not UK) that excludes males from the female showering and changing rooms.

I was in my gym and there was a man in the changing room- no attempt to be female other than a sports-bra- and since then I was just stressed everytime I went.

I have emailed a gym who say they are trans-inclusive on a case by case basis and said I should use the accessiblity changing room if I am uncomfortable.

I have also put up a post on Reddit in the local page - that got auto-moderated, and then the same post on the national page that is going through normal moderation.

My post says this

I am looking for XXXX gyms that have female‑only changing and shower areas that are restricted by sex, not self‑identified gender.

I’m comfortable sharing these spaces with other females, but I’m not comfortable changing or showering in areas where males may be present.

If you know of any gyms in XXXX please sent me a direct message.

Wish me luck.

Feminists assign sexual and/or violent motivations to those who are have sexual and/or violent motivations.

A message for those on here who like to appropriate all sorts of “boundary” conditions in their arguments:

It is fanciful to believe that these laws seek to regulate every possibility that can arise, day-to-day, and in circumstances that are too numerous to anticipate.

What a nice turn of phrase.

Indeed. And the evidence is all around us. Data, crime reports, tribunals and court cases, even posters on here boring us all to tears with their convoluted ramblings about why women aren't entitled to privacy from random men.

Please God that this is appealed and upheld. This has absolutely nailed it. Even if it isn't appealed, it sets another benchmark in tribunal decisions. Bridget Phillipson [spelling] can sit on the EHRC guidance as long as she likes but the law will keep on churning.

@onepostwonder Sorry honey but if you want to wee or change with us, you'll have to find a different jurisdiction.

I hope it opens the floodgates for women to challenge, not just in the public sector but also the private. That will kill these types of policies and myopic focus on “trans” at the expense of women.

Someone didn't read the Equality Act, I see. The EA treats race and sex very differently. This makes practical and logical sense, because having high levels of melanin in one's skin and an increased risk of sickle cell anaemia doesn't have any effect at all on one's ability to commit rape and leave one's victim pregnant.

Pretending that race and sex are comparable is lazy, racist, and thoroughly debunked already.

We don't. You do that to yourselves sufficiently often that all we need do is post the receipts.

What you've just done is called "tone policing". It's a silencing tactic and it's absolutely transparently obvious to board regulars now. Try harder.

onepostwonder · Yesterday 19:52
Sex realists would probably have more cultural support if they weren't always assigning sexual and/or violent motivations to trans people.

Tell that to your fellow transwomen who like to plaster endless pictures of themselves wanking in women's toilets.

Honestly. What a joke.

The male sex is the predator class, the violent class, the raping class, they've spent fucking years trying to access unconsenting women and girls with threats of violence, rape and legal sanctions for non-compliance, are massively over represented as sex offenders in prison and gleefully post wanking selfies from one end of the Internet to the other.

But all this isn't real, it's merely 'assigned motivation'.

I can see today is going to turn into one endless snort.

Sure thing! I'll hop on that trans woman hotline immediately.

I haven't been in with anything resembling a trans community since the early 90s. There's a lot I see on social media from trans people that I agree is questionable and sometimes offensive. I have as much influence over these actions as you do.

And there used to be a whole act addressing gender recognition integrated within all levels of policy across the union—now disowned and orphaned quicker than a Southern Baptist can say 'thank you, Jesus.'

The male sex is the predator class, the violent class, the raping class, they've spent fucking years trying to access unconsenting women and girls with threats of violence, rape and legal sanctions for non-compliance, are massively over represented as sex offenders in prison and gleefully post wanking selfies from one end of the Internet to the other.

I agree 100%. Men absolutely do this. Men act upon women regardless of laws.

So let's not make it easier for them, yeah?

The GRA still exists and has neither been modified nor clarified. The For Women Scotland verdict clarified how the EA works.

It's dishonest to suggest that anything has changed in law. The only that has happened is that all the lying, wrongful policies have been exposed as unlawful.

Yes. Women are finally taking our stuff back. It's taking an age but as the tribunals and court cases stack up, it's going in one direction. And that's to reinstate safety and safeguarding for women and girls.

The bit you always determinedly miss, as do most of the TRAs that wind up here, is that we know not all TIMs are violent (sorry they are all, obviously, men).

But we can't tell which ones are lovely and which ones are harmful (even if we were minded to make exceptions) until a woman or girl is harmed. That's not an acceptable method of risk management, so it's a hard no to all males in women's spaces, even if it makes the nice ones sad.

And if the nice ones were truely nice, they'd understand why we say no to all males over eight in women's spaces and they would not take their exclusion personally.

And lovely, nice or harmless men still violate the privacy and dignity of women, by their very nature of being male people in female single sex spaces.

yes. And if you refuse to stay out of female spaces, you’ll be one of them won’t you?

An Act of Parliament that required any person to act as if a male person's subjective belief about themselves that is not based in any material reality about their sex category was never going to work. Because making people believe in something that is not based on any material reality is not something a government should be forcing on others. Besides, we were assured it was only for allowing same sex marriage at a time when it was illegal.

Thank you for your contributions, you have demonstrated that men will indeed act upon women in ignoring their boundaries regardless of laws.

You have told us often enough that you will continue to access female single sex provisions.

I am a woman. Of course I will use applicable provisions.

In these countries can men still be done for indecent exposure?

And if so, why is it ok for them to do in changing rooms but not eg outside in a park?

The law is in the middle of changing. Let's wait and see where it ends up first before breaking out the cake and tea.

And you continue to demonstrate male people who ignore female people’s boundaries for any new comer to this board.