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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Looking for a gym with female-only changing rooms by sex: a journey

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2021x · Yesterday 00:16

I am trying to find a gym in my city (not UK) that excludes males from the female showering and changing rooms.

I was in my gym and there was a man in the changing room- no attempt to be female other than a sports-bra- and since then I was just stressed everytime I went.

I have emailed a gym who say they are trans-inclusive on a case by case basis and said I should use the accessiblity changing room if I am uncomfortable.

I have also put up a post on Reddit in the local page - that got auto-moderated, and then the same post on the national page that is going through normal moderation.

My post says this

I am looking for XXXX gyms that have female‑only changing and shower areas that are restricted by sex, not self‑identified gender.

I’m comfortable sharing these spaces with other females, but I’m not comfortable changing or showering in areas where males may be present.

If you know of any gyms in XXXX please sent me a direct message.

Wish me luck.

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HenriettaSwanLeavitt · Today 14:54

borntobequiet · Today 14:27

That’s a shame, because it was so revealing (no pun intended).

Yes, I would much prefer that these posts were left to stand, but I can see why MN needs to delete. I can usually get the gist of a deleted post from the replies anyway😁

MyAmpleSheep · Today 15:30

I think we should question the reason behind deleting a post. Presumably it’s to avoid taking a conversation down a road it shouldn’t go (according to mumsnet’s rules). There’s no point doing so days and hundreds of posts later, after that post has been replied to many times. What purpose does deleting it then serve?

PrettyDamnCosmic · Today 15:44

MyAmpleSheep · Today 15:30

I think we should question the reason behind deleting a post. Presumably it’s to avoid taking a conversation down a road it shouldn’t go (according to mumsnet’s rules). There’s no point doing so days and hundreds of posts later, after that post has been replied to many times. What purpose does deleting it then serve?

I have taken to routinely cutting & pasting into my replies now so that even if the post gets deleted the words still stand.

Datun · Today 15:51

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · Today 14:53

I'd be willing to be he wrote it entirely deliberately to piss off or upset Mumsnetters.

Of course. He tries to provoke women in the same way that he would try to provoke another man. How little they understand us.

Indeed.

TeiTetua · Today 15:57

It seems to be the comment about elderly people that got deleted. I thought that was completely vile and that I ought to report it, but I didn't get around to it. Evidently others did, and good for them.

Keeptoiletssafe · Today 16:11

It’s so difficult to know whether to reply to posters that go strong and wrong. I know I must bore the life out of everyone trying to explain patiently to the poster why their argument is daft and dangerous, but maybe it will help others new to the debate.

Starsaff · Today 16:12

EmilyinEverton · Yesterday 04:17

But very elderly women do not commit around 97% of all sex crimes, including voyeurism and indecent exposure.

Neither do trans women.

Transwomen are males i.e. men. Their patterns of sexual offending do not differ from other males. In fact trans identifying men are more likely to be in prison for sexual offences than non trans identifying males. So males who choose to identify as “women” are indeed as much as risk as any other man if not more so.

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