Watch in real time as Trans Reddit turns on one of it's own for suggesting that maybe they are biological men and arguing they are not makes them look unstable.

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www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1t0t604/trans_girl_says_were_all_biological_males/

I think it’s an intellectual exercise so that they don’t have to face some difficult aspects of reality. But it has to be couched in word salad and sociological concept driven language because that is a means used to obscure the simplicity of what everyone knows. We are mammals, and our sex is immutable.

For us, it's expected in many many medical situations. It doesn't need to be announced, we know it will be there.

And this is one of the differences between women and even the best-passing of trans-identifying men.

This unilateral imposition of motivations and circumstances that have never happened upon trans people diminishes sex realist arguments.

The "circumstances" are built into our bodies. They are not something it's in my gift to impose or not.

Motivations are irrelevant. Nature doesn't care what you want.

Don’t worry; there’s plenty to go around.

Did you just type a list of random words? Or are you claiming that biology is transphobic now? 😂😂😂

I don't think I've ever had a pregnancy test done without my knowledge. Maybe I'm lucky. Anyway I'd love to know how @onepostwonder has been affected by menstruation, pregnancy, menopause, etc, in any way other than how men are affected? That is they see the women in their lives go through it. And thats all.

Every time you, as a male, enter women's spaces or use women's services, you are lying. To all of us, to society at large, and to yourself.

Sad times. It is also very unlikely that I will ever accept Jesus Christ into my heart as my lord and saviour.

Genderist beliefs don't mean a person genuinely believes they've changed sex, for the most part. They know what sex they are. If they were really deluded, they wouldn't do the whole 'transitioning' thing. They'd just be that 'woman with a penis'.

Despite many words spent attempting to pretzel reality and twist things as though one could actually fool biological sex into swapping over if only one were clever enough (say the pronouns! SAY THEM!), it's a funny mix of wanting the impossible while knowing its impossible. Perhaps akin to gambling addicts who are actually addicted to losing.

It's highly disordered thinking, but not pure delusion in the sense usually used in mental illness. Although a person could have mental illness as a co morbidity, of course.

Christ, is OnePostW-n-er ( feel free to insert your own vowel and consonant of choice, I've picked mine...) still droning on?

Translation: OPW thinks that his feelings matter more than all women's feelings and the law of the land.

Again imposing motivations on people. Bad law is bad law. It will be clarified and possibly corrected depending on the interests of those in power.

"Bad" law still needs to be followed.

A law that recognises reality is a good law. As the SC judges themselves explained, using certificated sex instead of actual biological sex makes no sense.

Politicians across the parties have realised that trying to amend the EA2010 to strip women of rights is electoral poison.

In this thread, the entitled male demonstrates how his early male socialisation persists by being a self-admitted scofflaw.

It’s quite the bigly word salad.

He’s still not a woman though.

I read that in David Attenborough's voice.

That made me laugh.

I was more thinking this use of "in this thread": https://www.howtogeek.com/698506/what-does-itt-mean-and-how-do-i-use-it/#the-changing-meaning-of-itt

You show yourself for who you are every time you post.

I'll be "shedding my biological body" in about 40 to 50 years I guess. 😂

How does 'actual biological sex' manifest itself socially? How is it referenced culturally, by systems in day-to-day life if not by a certificate?

How does 'actual biological sex' manifest itself socially? How is it referenced culturally, by systems in day-to-day life if not by a certificate?

Really good question, and I'm glad you asked.

'Actual biological sex' manifests socially and is it referenced culturally for most women hundreds of times daily since early childhood and all women more often than it should in all the ways that women are undervalued, underpaid and underrepresented in life, and men (including trans-identifying men who claim to be women) are not:

• Pay
• Domestic work
• Seniority
• Representation
• Healthcare
• Social status

And that's just in western so-called liberal society. In Afghanistan "actual biological sex" is culturally manifested by women not being taught to read or write, or move outside the house unaccompanied by an "actual biological man" for fear of being beaten and imprisoned, and sexually assaulted and raped.

"Actual biological women", unlike you, don't have the option to throw off the shrouds of their sex-based opression - a shroud that nobody ever asked them if they wanted to wear before landing it on them.

When an organisation requires identification including gender/sex, how does it acquire this? The word of the person? A quick genetic test? No. It's via a certificate.

I know how gender works, I was asking about 'sex.' I am a mother. It impacted my career in many ways. I've never been an adult man. Please provide me with the instructions on how I can 'unshroud' 40 years of my life and receive this fabled compensation due to me. If your solution is 'simply out yourself as a trans person,' my answer would be 'you have a misaligned sense of power and oppression.'

Apparently you don’t know how sex works. Until women can opt out of being treated like women oppression of females is nothing to do with gender and everything to do to do with their sex and their sexed bodies. I don’t know how much clearer this can be explained to you, but I will keep doing so.

To be quite quite clear: your version of being a woman is a grotesque simulacrum. You are Marie Antoinette playing at being a peasant and claiming it gave her the inner knowledge of being poor - or worse, that play acting at poor actually made her one of the poor. I don’t know or care how long you’ve been wearing woman costume, or whether you know how to take it off any more. You adopted it voluntarily and for your own thoughtless and selfish purposes. It’s a costume and will always be a costume. You cannot opt into oppression. It just doesn’t count.