Watch in real time as Trans Reddit turns on one of it's own for suggesting that maybe they are biological men and arguing they are not makes them look unstable.

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www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1t0t604/trans_girl_says_were_all_biological_males/

@onepostwonder I quoted you but to be clear, I’ll put it here

I identify more of a representative of those who share a philosophical perspective rejecting the idea that people socially and culturally possess an inherent, fixed essence based on the condition of conception.

inherent fixed essence - is this something they feel inside them? Or is it something that aligns with some external feature?

Thank you, Ophelia.

It really upset me because I was talking about how PTSD can lead to physical problems like high blood pressure and stroke. He said that if I chose not to be harmed, I wouldn't be. By strong implication, I chose my partial blindness and other physical problems that stem from my PTSD re-experiencing and terror. I don't know why, but that hit me hard. I've probably been lucky but I haven't been blamed for my PTSD or it resulting problems in a long time.

I appreciate your support. Several GC women supported me in that thread and I appreciate that more than I can say. It was triggering.

I was referencing the sex realist belief that the presence of SRY, or XX/XY chromosomes, or Mullerian ducts, or Wolffian ducts should determine everyone's existence socially and culturally. The 'fixed essence' in this case is sex. The sole, relevant influence that must be referenced at all times.

I also identify as a person who rejects the social importance/cultural relevance of gender as well. C'est la vie.

It seems to me that politics plays two games - one is promising certain things to trying to get itself elected, the other is trying to implement party's aims.

The two don't necessarily have anything to do with each other.

But on a finite planet, with lessening resources, an ageing population, and a financial system that relies on debt secured on thin air and future promises and literally nothing else, I don't really know where else it can go.

Is there even a working model to aim for? Everything seems just reactive and as you say, a swerve and fudge.

I’m sorry I still don’t understand.

can you elaborate?

would I be correct to say that you are what would be called a trans woman?

I mean it's interesting how someone of the sex who is unaffected by menstruation, pregnancy, menopause, etc, is able to airily dismiss their own lack of experience and awareness and comfortably identify into the sex that IS affected by all of those things, and also by sexism on the basis of the assumption of all of those things, and claim that they now know all about it, isn't it?

Bit colonial. Bit patronising.

Sex is sex.

Inner essences are irrelevant.

This is just waffle. What does “determine everyone’s existence socially and culturally” mean?

You do not understand what growing up in a female body actually means. You think it is all about outward expression because it is all you have.

You seem unable to believe that biological women have both a depth of experience and comprehension about being female that you cannot share. You cannot hear what we say.

It is not about outward expression. That is not what makes someone female. I can see that you might need to believe it is, but it just isn’t. You are appropriating an embodied experience that you do not understand.

I wouldn't say i've been unaffected. Personally though, yes.

Sexism is sexism, all women are affected.

"Colonial" and "patronising" imply a power imbalance. One sex realist hand-wave however, and suddenly a middle-aged woman who transitioned as a teen four decades ago is an officer of the elite patriarchy corps.

One word.

Mansplaining.

Mansplaining our sex to us.

And then Russell Branding it to try and sound intelligent when all it is, is fancy and frilly good old fashioned sexism.

You are a trans woman right?

you’re someone who has transitioned?

Ooo you nailed it.

Yes there IS a power imbalance. Our sex is the key bit here.

You are not a woman. You are not female.

Ummmm no. No mate. Really no. Why would you take a pregnancy test. You are male. This has not just jumped the shark, it’s jumped the Meg. Cop on mate.

It's not a 'sex realist belief', it's a fact, it's reality- in the same way 'the earth is round' is a fact and 'the earth is flat' is a belief.

To waste money and to validate himself.

I am a woman, who transitioned as a teen in the 80s. 'Trans' was a process that I started, completed and moved on from.

I've lived enough life to understand social and cultural reality is vastly different than the vision sex realists wish to impose upon the world. Whatever gametes I may or may not have possessed when I started transition are irrelevant to all I know or have yet to meet in the world. The desire to tie what spaces I am allowed to access and what words I am allowed to use to my foetal development is reductive at best.

Yeah. It’s pure jealousy. Men like this desperately want to be a woman and can’t accept all the surgery, drugs and bits of paper will never make them so. Also makes a mockery of all the TRA loudly claiming transpeople know they haven’t changed sex. I don’t think this one got the memo on that. 😂😂😂

Once again, this excerpt by Janice Raymond, fits perfectly with this discussion and so many others, I will never stop posting it:

But in some very real senses, female biology shapes female history—a history that men don’t have because of their sex—including the history of menstruation, the history of pregnancy or the capacity to become pregnant, the history of childbirth and abortion, the history of certain bodily cycles and life changes, and the history of female subordination in a male-dominant society. Note that I keep saying history. To deny that female history is, in part, based on female biology is like denying that important aspects of Black history are based on skin color. As with biological skin color, female biology doesn’t confer an essential femininity; rather it confers a historical reality about what it means to be bom with XX chromosomes.

Males are outsiders to female history and always will be.

So you were female and became male?
im just trying to understand and you’re not being clear.

“One sex realist hand-wave however, and suddenly a middle-aged woman who transitioned as a teen four decades ago is an officer of the elite patriarchy corps.”

One sex realist hand-wave however, and suddenly a middle-aged woman male who transitioned as a teen four decades ago is an officer of the elite patriarchy corps.

That is an easy change for accuracy.

I would think any person reading who understood female oppression now has a clear idea that that male person never moved out of the “patriarchy corps”.

A sex realist belief that has no representation in reality. You are entitled to possess it, though.

The only hand waving going on is the man hand waving that his sex suddenly became irrelevant to women four decades ago because he decided it wasn't.

Women beg to differ.

How does being a sex realist have no representation in reality?

if you are indeed a trans woman, @onepostwonder then your perspective is one I’d really like to understand.

And we are not required to believe males are women and that humans can change sex. Sorry buddy. You can come on here shouting into the void about “you’re a real woman now” but you’ll always know, and we’ll always know, that’s not true.