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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?

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HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:39

Dear friends,

As anyone paying attention to current trans affairs knows, the anti-trans brigade like to throw around what they think is the “killer question”.

"What is a woman, then?"

These people will often engage in triumphal sneering as they further insist "Your chromosomes are what you are; XX are women and XY are men. It's science, innit?"

And as a confident trans-woman I say to these people "Absolutely! What is a woman? Great question! Let's examine that".

To begin, let's consult three definitive sources:

First, the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language.
Then, modern genetics and neurophysiology.
And finally, up to date research on brain structure in cisgender and transgender women.

First, the dictionary.
For this, let's go with the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:

Woman (noun)

  1. an adult female human being
  2. an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth

As we can see from #2, despite the recent social backlash and disproportionately loud screeching from certain murky corners of the internet, Western culture as a whole is moving toward accepting the validity of trans peoples' inner gender identity. No person with a working moral compass would consider this a bad thing.

Next, let’s summarize genetics and neurophysiology.

Modern society routinely treats all the following “XY” humans as WOMEN, however...
-You can be a woman because you have X & Y chromosomes but your body is insensitive to androgens and you have female anatomy & gender identity.
Ah, so much for the childishly simplistic “But women = XX and men = XY".
-You can be a woman with X & Y chromosomes but your Y is missing the SRY gene, so you have a female body and gender identity (yes, this is a real thing despite your denials).

People who have X & Y chromosomes, but their Y is missing the SRY gene, develop a female body.
Should we treat such people as men, in society, when they have the body of a woman, simply because simpletons insist that XY = Male?
Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes.

You can be a woman with XXY or XXXY chromosomes, giving you a male body but female brain/body map and gender identity.
-You can be a woman with XY chromosomes but a mutation called CBX2 that blocks the influence of the SRY gene.
-You can be a woman because you have 46,XY in some cells but 46,XX in other cells, or 47, XXY.

These are all valid, scientifically obervable genetic variations that highlight the "But XX = women and XY = men" mantra for the simplistic, unscientific nonsense that it is.

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.
These show that in the section of the brain that determines one’s sense of gender identity.

The brains of transgender women are almost identical to those of cisgender women.
The brains of trans men also align more with cisgender men than they do with women.

And so, to summarize

Modern science, which is how rational people resolve differences of opinion.
It is not about referring to holy books, written in pre-scientific ages past.
It is not about regurgitating simplistic, binary statements that you learnt in the 4th grade.

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

P.S. In this essay we have a summary of the cutting edge science which validates transgender womens' biologically determined, inner sense of gender identity.

As I’ve said, a rational society follows rational explanations, and doesn’t define its people via outdated religious or cultural ideas.
But beyond that, there is simply human courtesy and kindness.

It’s cruel, hateful and rude for the transphobic bigots to demand that people be forced to conform to their anti-scientific notions.

No one's life is affected negatively by honoring a transwoman as a woman, as the historical record of many trans accepting societies have shown.

Good people will see the very challenging dilemma that transwomen are in, and their natural empathy, coupled with scientific insight, will make them want to support their fellow human beings in being who they know they are.

And so, I ask all of you:

Should we as a society treat trans-women as the women their brain and neurobiology tells us they are? And, if not, why on earth wouldn’t we?

P.P.S. The image in this post is of women who have XY chromosomes, but an androgen insensitivity syndrome which causes their bodies to develop as female.
Would anyone in their right mind insist we treat them as males, simply because of their chromosomal makeup?
The bigots might, but you know you're better than that, right?

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mumof5five · 27/04/2026 18:56

Oh my god

FanFckingTastic · 27/04/2026 18:59

Good Lord. How have we got to a place where the subject of 'what a woman is' has become so complex, and worthy of a word-salad essay.

You either are a woman (I mean, really a woman, the proper kind), or you are not. We all know what a woman is and it's not someone with a penis. You are not a woman on the 'inside' and you know this, and we all know this too.

A general rule of thumb, if you are spending time trying to conflate and argue and persuade someone that you really are a woman then you are probably not.

borntobequiet · 27/04/2026 19:00

EmpressaurusKitty · 27/04/2026 17:51

Is this AidaP’s replacement?

Just in case it is, a reminder of the “no pun intended” rolling pin.

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
teawamutu · 27/04/2026 19:01

Seen this dozens of times over the years, but OP's effort is definitely one of the poorer efforts. Hope for his sake it's AI-assisted.

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
ParmaVioletTea · 27/04/2026 19:02

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

No, no, no, no, no.

You fundamentally misunderstand two things:

sex = biology, immutable. Defined by having the potential to produce either large gametes or small gametes. Ahistorical ie doesn't change throughout human history.

gender roles/stereotypes = culturally and historically produced ideologies of masculinity and femininity (better phrased as sex-based stereotypes) ie because you're female & can have a baby, you are "naturally" nurturing. These stereotypes change through history and across cultures.

@HazelLemur , you can dress as women in 2026 stereotypically dress, you can acquire features of femininity, or eschew features of masculinity, but you're not a woman. Ever.

Most transwomen/trans-identified men play out a heightened version of feminine stereotypes (which most actual women resist because they've been used to trap and oppress us), but that is NOT "being a woman."

It's acting according to what you see as a gender role or stereotype.

And very few women would write an OP like yours - it's so masculine-coded, uyou give yurself away, even if we can't see your larger skeletal frame, including male hands, feet & head shape, as well as hip/pelvic girdle and Q angle (the angle at which the head of your femur inserts into the pelvis).

sesquipedalian · 27/04/2026 19:05

OP, if you were to die and your bones were to wash up on a beach, you would be identified as the man that you are. Even if there was a bit if you left and they did DNA analysis, you’d be identified as a man. Semantics, vanishingly rare medical conditions and nonsense about brain analysis do not a woman make.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:06

"What is a woman, then?"

Well, it's definitely not some bloke who sticks the word woman in his description of himself.

MoistVonL · 27/04/2026 19:06

Hazel, that nonsense might have sounded plausible in 2015 but it's 2026 now.

We've heard and debunked all of your specious 'arguments' long ago.

Magpiecomplex · 27/04/2026 19:07

Atoxicsewerofhate · 27/04/2026 18:02

Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes
I must say I really like this turn of phrase

Psychosexual Axe To Grind would be a great username.

Underthinker · 27/04/2026 19:08

I hate to think what kind of wood gets chopped with a psychosexual axe.

teawamutu · 27/04/2026 19:11

Underthinker · 27/04/2026 19:08

I hate to think what kind of wood gets chopped with a psychosexual axe.

I'm sure there's a joke incorporating twigs and berries or morning wood, but it's been a long day and I'm not feeling creative.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 27/04/2026 19:11

HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:48

And to anyone still on the fence, take a look - a proper look - at the first few responses.

Are these rational, intelligent, or inquisitive responses and a desire to engage? Do they seem like the kind of statements made by empathetic people? Or might they possibly, just possibly, appear to underline my opening post? 🤔

Haha, you spewed a load of AI horseshit all over the place and then actually want us to engage?

Don't be daft.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 19:12

Are we stuck in a time warp?
Every ten years or so we go back to the beginning again it seems.

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 19:13

Joining this thread at Page 4, delighted to look back and see that nobody wasted very much time taking the OP seriously.
There's often a 'should we engage/should we not?' dilemma about 'ploppers', but this one was such a humdinger that it was obvious what to do with it!

JuliettaCaeser · 27/04/2026 19:16

This again?! Thought this had all been resolved by the Supreme Court? Not open for re litigation mate.

ParmaVioletTea · 27/04/2026 19:16

Also @HazelLemur , women with DSDs (differences in Sexual Development) know they are women. And they are genetically female - it's just that there's been a mutation - given that as a species, we reproduce sexually, mutations happen ALL THE TIME.

Women with DSDs have said time & again that they do not want to be coerced into justifying the false narrative of "sex is a spectrum." They know what sex they are.

Just as a person, born with the genetic mutation that means they have only one arm, or 6 fingers, doesn't mean that the number of fingers humans have is "on a spectrum."

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:16

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 19:13

Joining this thread at Page 4, delighted to look back and see that nobody wasted very much time taking the OP seriously.
There's often a 'should we engage/should we not?' dilemma about 'ploppers', but this one was such a humdinger that it was obvious what to do with it!

I'll admit I didn't do more than skim the gentleman's post after the anti-trans brigade wankwaffle at the beginning.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:17

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 19:12

Are we stuck in a time warp?
Every ten years or so we go back to the beginning again it seems.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show Dance GIF by IFC

Bit like fashion .

Magpiecomplex · 27/04/2026 19:21

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:17

Bit like fashion .

I was thinking of unusually intelligent goldfish. Ten year memory rather than ten seconds.

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 27/04/2026 19:26

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:17

Bit like fashion .

At least fashion has the decency to wait closer to 20 years before it comes back. Maybe even 30.

Taztoy · 27/04/2026 19:27

You’re still not allowed in women’s single sex spaces mate.

but you do you.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:30

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 27/04/2026 19:26

At least fashion has the decency to wait closer to 20 years before it comes back. Maybe even 30.

True! Imagine flares and platform shoes every ten years!

<shudders>

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 19:34

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 19:13

Joining this thread at Page 4, delighted to look back and see that nobody wasted very much time taking the OP seriously.
There's often a 'should we engage/should we not?' dilemma about 'ploppers', but this one was such a humdinger that it was obvious what to do with it!

Agreed. I'm usually very much 'for the lurkers' but even I couldn't be bothered compiling a response to the utter bilge of the OP.

The quality of visiting TRA's really has gone downhill. They don't even attempt the whole naive 'just wondering' nonsense now and just go straight to garbled AI and the Bumper Book of TRA arguments is clearly overdue an update.

Tut tut. Poor show.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 19:36

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 19:34

Agreed. I'm usually very much 'for the lurkers' but even I couldn't be bothered compiling a response to the utter bilge of the OP.

The quality of visiting TRA's really has gone downhill. They don't even attempt the whole naive 'just wondering' nonsense now and just go straight to garbled AI and the Bumper Book of TRA arguments is clearly overdue an update.

Tut tut. Poor show.

Sometimes the OP does the peaking for the lurkers for us!

Ilovemychocolate · 27/04/2026 19:37

I just love a man mansplaining to us what a woman is, and how he definitely is one.
You had/have a dick?
You are a bloke mate.
Hope this helps! 😁

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