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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?

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HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:39

Dear friends,

As anyone paying attention to current trans affairs knows, the anti-trans brigade like to throw around what they think is the “killer question”.

"What is a woman, then?"

These people will often engage in triumphal sneering as they further insist "Your chromosomes are what you are; XX are women and XY are men. It's science, innit?"

And as a confident trans-woman I say to these people "Absolutely! What is a woman? Great question! Let's examine that".

To begin, let's consult three definitive sources:

First, the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language.
Then, modern genetics and neurophysiology.
And finally, up to date research on brain structure in cisgender and transgender women.

First, the dictionary.
For this, let's go with the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:

Woman (noun)

  1. an adult female human being
  2. an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth

As we can see from #2, despite the recent social backlash and disproportionately loud screeching from certain murky corners of the internet, Western culture as a whole is moving toward accepting the validity of trans peoples' inner gender identity. No person with a working moral compass would consider this a bad thing.

Next, let’s summarize genetics and neurophysiology.

Modern society routinely treats all the following “XY” humans as WOMEN, however...
-You can be a woman because you have X & Y chromosomes but your body is insensitive to androgens and you have female anatomy & gender identity.
Ah, so much for the childishly simplistic “But women = XX and men = XY".
-You can be a woman with X & Y chromosomes but your Y is missing the SRY gene, so you have a female body and gender identity (yes, this is a real thing despite your denials).

People who have X & Y chromosomes, but their Y is missing the SRY gene, develop a female body.
Should we treat such people as men, in society, when they have the body of a woman, simply because simpletons insist that XY = Male?
Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes.

You can be a woman with XXY or XXXY chromosomes, giving you a male body but female brain/body map and gender identity.
-You can be a woman with XY chromosomes but a mutation called CBX2 that blocks the influence of the SRY gene.
-You can be a woman because you have 46,XY in some cells but 46,XX in other cells, or 47, XXY.

These are all valid, scientifically obervable genetic variations that highlight the "But XX = women and XY = men" mantra for the simplistic, unscientific nonsense that it is.

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.
These show that in the section of the brain that determines one’s sense of gender identity.

The brains of transgender women are almost identical to those of cisgender women.
The brains of trans men also align more with cisgender men than they do with women.

And so, to summarize

Modern science, which is how rational people resolve differences of opinion.
It is not about referring to holy books, written in pre-scientific ages past.
It is not about regurgitating simplistic, binary statements that you learnt in the 4th grade.

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

P.S. In this essay we have a summary of the cutting edge science which validates transgender womens' biologically determined, inner sense of gender identity.

As I’ve said, a rational society follows rational explanations, and doesn’t define its people via outdated religious or cultural ideas.
But beyond that, there is simply human courtesy and kindness.

It’s cruel, hateful and rude for the transphobic bigots to demand that people be forced to conform to their anti-scientific notions.

No one's life is affected negatively by honoring a transwoman as a woman, as the historical record of many trans accepting societies have shown.

Good people will see the very challenging dilemma that transwomen are in, and their natural empathy, coupled with scientific insight, will make them want to support their fellow human beings in being who they know they are.

And so, I ask all of you:

Should we as a society treat trans-women as the women their brain and neurobiology tells us they are? And, if not, why on earth wouldn’t we?

P.P.S. The image in this post is of women who have XY chromosomes, but an androgen insensitivity syndrome which causes their bodies to develop as female.
Would anyone in their right mind insist we treat them as males, simply because of their chromosomal makeup?
The bigots might, but you know you're better than that, right?

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Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 20:15

OotontheRandan · 27/04/2026 20:14

I read the first paragraph of the first post and honestly... wise up. You know what woman is. Just like you know what a trans woman is.

Love the username!

choccytime · 27/04/2026 20:15

All woman here 😬If you've got a penis you're not one , end of

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:16

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 20:10

What do you sit on? Chairs i suppose, or do you own a chaise long? An AI image would be much appreciated.

Used to have a chaise long thingy in the house I grew up in. They are probably great for lounging on while some gentleman gently fans you after a fainting spell, but for daily life not so much.

Magpiecomplex · 27/04/2026 20:19

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 20:10

Futon?
Blow up chair?
Lawn furniture?
Throne of knives?

Come on @Boiledbeetle, own up...

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DialSquare · 27/04/2026 20:20

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:14

Recliner chairs. So much shit falls down the sides and gets stuck on a little metal sticky out bit. If I've spent 5 minutes looking for something that was there when I sat down and I can't find it you can guarantee if I shove my hand down the gap my lighter/pen/phone/hair band/hand cream/remote control/hairbrush will be there!

nicole richie hair flip GIF

I’ve got sofas and recliners.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:23

Magpiecomplex · 27/04/2026 20:19

Come on @Boiledbeetle, own up...

That.

But the recliner version.

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/04/2026 20:24

It’s a funny thing. I have no need to do anything at all to be female. No matter what I wear, say, feel or do I’m a woman.

Other people, not so much!

Magpiecomplex · 27/04/2026 20:24

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:23

That.

But the recliner version.

Stylish. I like it.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:25

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 20:20

I’ve got sofas and recliners.

Next you'll be telling me you also own an oven as well!

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 20:26

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:25

Next you'll be telling me you also own an oven as well!

I do but it’s not working properly. You can’t have everything.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:29

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 20:26

I do but it’s not working properly. You can’t have everything.

Sad times.

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Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:35

I've changed my t-shirt. It feels kind of fitting for this thread.

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 20:37

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 20:23

That.

But the recliner version.

Dammit. Now I want one. My sofa is so boring 😫

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 20:39

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 20:20

I’ve got sofas and recliners.

Well my mum has two reclining sofas. TWO! So ner 😛

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 20:41

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 20:39

Well my mum has two reclining sofas. TWO! So ner 😛

So if you visit do you all have to lay back at the same time or can people have different stages of upright and prone?

<conjuring up images>

nocoolnamesleft · 27/04/2026 20:44

Any man who mansplains womanhood to a group of women is absolutely proving how incontrovertibly male he is.

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 20:47

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 20:41

So if you visit do you all have to lay back at the same time or can people have different stages of upright and prone?

<conjuring up images>

Does your mum keep hold of the remote controls, and if one set of reclining-sofa-sitters is boring her, she can flatten them, and make the more interesting set sit up and talk to her?
😄

Magpiecomplex · 27/04/2026 20:49

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 20:47

Does your mum keep hold of the remote controls, and if one set of reclining-sofa-sitters is boring her, she can flatten them, and make the more interesting set sit up and talk to her?
😄

I'm always curious where the buttons for the ejector seats are. Unless that's a premium feature?

ERthree · 27/04/2026 20:49

Foxtrot
Uniform
Charlie
Kilo

Oscar
Foxtrot
Foxtrot
Mate, you are a bloke.
As the Great Rabbie Burns once said " a man is a man for aw that"

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 27/04/2026 20:49

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 20:39

Well my mum has two reclining sofas. TWO! So ner 😛

So does mine! Not fancy remote controlled ones though. Just one where you pull the Little handle out and the leg bit flips up.

StillSpartacus · 27/04/2026 20:50

Golly. Some people really don’t like being told no.

NormasArse · 27/04/2026 20:54

I rarely think about the fact that I’m female. Throughout my life, I’ve always just been treading water, so to speak.

The things that remind me I’m a woman have been periods- heavy bleeds every month- flooding in the supermarket, at gigs, in hospital with heavy blood loss on grandma’s 80th.

A prolapsed uterus after childbirth (I adopted after that x2).

Menopause was horrific- for years. Now I’m due a second biopsy for thickening of the lining of my uterus.

I very rarely wear skirts or dresses, or make up.

The trans women I see seem so alien to my experience of being female.

I’m sorry.

I’m sure there are people who have wonky chromosomes, but those don’t make you dress up to fit a stereotype.

Being a woman is fucking exhausting, especially at 60.

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DialSquare · 27/04/2026 21:00

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 20:39

Well my mum has two reclining sofas. TWO! So ner 😛

arrogant GIF

Well I didn’t want to brag too
much, too early, but I’ve got TWO sofas and TWO recliners.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 21:02

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 21:00

Well I didn’t want to brag too
much, too early, but I’ve got TWO sofas and TWO recliners.

Now I'm jealous. Not of the quantity but of the size of your living room.

If I had two sofas AND two recliners in the living I wouldn't actually be able to get in the room. I'd just have to stand outside looking in pitifully!

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