Would or will you vote Green if it was the only way to change a Council that has traditionally been Labour?

[IwantToRetire]

That's the situation in my council area.

Not going to list issues in my area as maybe a bit identifying, but in terms of local issues they have lost the plot.

I am not a member of or ever been a supporter of any political party.

I usually just vote for a local independent candidate, but as the suggestion is the Greens could get in, should I vote for them to get Labour out, when I despise their treatment of women.

That he's happy with rampant anti semitism.

Absolutely not! The green party, basically just a mad hatter party disguise. I preferably Labour any day.

Do you have any proof of this? Or is it just valid criticism of the actions of the Israeli government?

At least they understand what a woman is.

Ah, so you’re okay with their slow erosion of our rights? Punishing us for not producing children, potentially bringing in US-style abortion bans that would threaten our lives? I don’t particularly like the greens’ stance on all this trans shit but at least they’re not advocating for policies that could kill us.

Reform are TWAW, I believe.

Are they?

Wasn't that just Vanessa Frake "no blanket ban on transwomen in women's prisons"? Quickly dismissed as "not Reform party policy".

They have been vocal about getting rid of gender ideology in schools and reinforcing single sex spaces.

Restore are only fielding candidates in Great Yarmouth this election. There's no Restore candidate in Sheffield. Can you elaborate what this is about?

Lots of anti Reform people repeat this but I can’t find it in their policies or manifesto. A possible review of abortion timescales seems to have been mentioned in an interview with Farage but can you point to their policies to punish child free women and restrict abortion rights?

Their other polices on immigration for example may well make a difference to women’s safety. Thanks to a PPs FOI research on another thread, it turns out that between 2010 and 2018, of the 7600 gang rapes in the Metropolitan police area, approximately 82% were perpetrated by men not of British nationality.

I am on the fence as to whether I support Reform but if you want to criticise them, at least do it on their actual policies rather than stuff made up from a remark in an interview.

I am not on the fence re, Greens as I have read their policies and successfull anti women conference motions, watched them bullying members out for having sane views, watched their Jewish leader pretzel himself into supporting the pro Pal Islamists (so that his Jewish family would be scared if he got into power) and their support for ‘Aimee’ Challenor.

Well, I read their manifesto when I looked at all the parties for the upcoming Scottish elections. I saw no mention either way re gender/trans.

Update: Looking at their website, they seem to have a separate manifesto for Scotland. I still can't see anything pertinent to the sex/gender issue, and in fact no mention of women at all, anywhere in their policies.

https://www.reformparty.uk/policies#policies-parallax

He is supportive of Palestine Action, proscribed as a terrorist group in 2025, and other organisations/protests trying to stop Israel getting arms.

As the Palestinian government, Hamas has made clear that its aim is to ‘eliminate Israel, establish an Islamic State and kill all Jews’.

None of the advocates for stopping the war in Palestine seem to have a plan for removing Hamas as government, or have even mentioned it as a necessity. So if they remove all fire power from Israel, what do you think is going to happen?

hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-23/debates/25062337000014/PalestineActionProscription

at least they’re not advocating for policies that could kill us.

That is another pretty big claim. Can you provide some actual evidence of this intention please.

The Greens open border policy is not going to improve health or safety for any of us. Are you aware that an estimated 900 million people live in poverty or conflict and so may wish to come here?

Magic money tree. That’s why they’re Green, innit?

I got this on the doorstep from the Green’s canvasser so it’s clearly the party line if anything is brought up.

The policies are more relevant than his background.

Where did I say I was pro Reform? I don't support them any more than the Greens

Do you honestly think that Zac Polanski being Jewish is in any way a counter argument to the accusation of anti semitism within the Green Party?

Reform is often accused of Islamophobia, would you accept that Zia Yusuf (their Deputy) being Muslim is a solid counter argument to this?

Im in what is now a very marginal ward in a council that has been labour dominated for the 50 years Ive lived here. The current ward councillors have been truly appalling about some significant local issues and many local residents are very angry with how we’ve been treated. I would vote LibDem if I thought it would make a difference but it currently looks as though the Green Party have a good chance of winning both seats, so they will be getting my vote.

Some members of the Sheffield branch are standing. They're independent on the ballot paper, but they're Restore members and are using Restore branding.

Understandably, they'd rather do stuff locally than drive five hours down to Great Yarmouth to support candidates who also are not Restore on the ballot paper, because they're running under the umbrella of Great Yarmouth First.

This has provoked a big spasm from Restore supporters on X who really don't like the idea of having a brown Muslim in the party.

The Restore-aligned Independents in Sheffield are best thought of as ripples in the aftermath of some local difficulties at the Sheffield East branch of Reform. Although there are right-wingers who are unhappy with Farage welcoming second-rate ex-Tories and "sucking up to the establishment" this instance of hard right splinterism doesn't seem to have been ideologically motivated.

Well, there are two basic types of people in Restore.

One type, and the Sheffield branch probably represent this, are people who agree with Reform on policy but for one reason or another don't like Farage and feel that Farmer Lowe is a more straight-talking and trustworthy character. (This includes a distinct subset of women who seem to be in love with Rupert)

The second type are extremely online white nationalists who have convinced themselves that Rupert is the second coming of Oswald Mosley.

Weirdly, neither of the two groups seems to know that the other one exists. But lots of people are starting to notice that the "Rupert Lowe" social media accounts run by his handlers are very different in tone from what Rupert himself says when he escapes from the basement and gets to give an interview.

I don't think this is sustainable, especially if Rupert's bright young men insist on going on podcasts and saying edgy things about Jews.

I find Zac to be pretty horrifying and not representative of me or my family. Leaving aside everything else I find troubling about the Green Party, I would absolutely feel less safe in a country that elects such people to be in charge.

I don’t even understand why the Scotland parliamentary Green Party candidates are often on and on about Palestine - that’s not something we need to think about for local candidates. Much more interested in how they’ll fix our roads or schools or bin collections.

My actual specific options for voting really boil down to SNP or Labour and I have serious concerns about both candidates so I still have no idea what I’ll do when I’m in the booth.

I think it’s a counter argument to the greens being an institutionally anti semitic party. I think what’s more likely is they criticise Israel

For me the Green Party are clearly anti semitic. They tried to pass a resolution that "Zionism is Racism ".

Given that the dictionary definition of Zionism (as opposed to each individual's personal definition) is the creation, development and protection of the State of Israel, meaning that the Green Party disagrees with the existence of the State of Israel.

The Greens are sympathetic towards Hamas, Hezbollah and Iranian regime- all of whom wish to destroy the State of Israel and basically finish the job that the Nazis nearly succeeded in
of eliminating Jews.

So we have a political party that wants to nationalise industries, is intolerant of any opposing views, is anti capitalist, sympathises with violent groups and blames everything on the millionaires and the Jews.

Sounds very familiar to 1930s Germany and all Zac has to do to complete the picture is to grow a funny moustache.

Thank you very much for responding. That's really interesting.

How does a person know that an independent person is actually a Restore member? Do they advertise the fact?

Sorry, I'm trying to get to grips with all this!

That is a stretch and a half. Plenty of Jews disagree with the state of Israel and Zionism, which has grown from the official dictionary definition into what we see now - the state of Israel attacking multiple neighbouring countries in an attempt to create a “greater Israel”. Do you think they’re Nazis too?