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Would or will you vote Green if it was the only way to change a Council that has traditionally been Labour?

231 replies

IwantToRetire · 17/04/2026 18:24

That's the situation in my council area.

Not going to list issues in my area as maybe a bit identifying, but in terms of local issues they have lost the plot.

I am not a member of or ever been a supporter of any political party.

I usually just vote for a local independent candidate, but as the suggestion is the Greens could get in, should I vote for them to get Labour out, when I despise their treatment of women.

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JKRgreatestfan · 19/04/2026 05:03

No they are the looniest of the lot.

JKRgreatestfan · 19/04/2026 05:07

Didn't even Caroline Lucas a Green Brighton MP, disown the local Green Council as they were a political liability for her?

MinnieMountain · 19/04/2026 06:10

No, for the reasons stated by PP.

Plus MIL used to be involved in local politics and I wouldn't because of what she told me about the internal workings of the local Green Party.

I'm also in Peterborough @Another2Cats.

I've just looked at our list of candidates and fuck me! The Conservative candidate is the local man who was found to have had an inappropriate relationship when he was an undercover police officer. I despair.

PurpleThistle7 · 19/04/2026 07:08

Im Jewish so… no. I’ll take lazy and incompetent over hateful and insane.

I think politics is a total nightmare now and don’t trust a single one of them.

ContentedAlpaca · 19/04/2026 09:38

No way. I think reform will get in here anyway.

CapacityBrown · 19/04/2026 10:30

The irony of people voting for a racist party like Green because they don't want Reform.

Rightsraptor · 19/04/2026 10:32

Absolutely not.

While Labour are useless and I'm despairing of them, they pose nowhere near the level of danger that the Green Party does.

MrsColinRobinson · 19/04/2026 10:41

Not a chance! Although it's impossible to find anyone at all to vote for. None of them are doing anything to better women's lives.

I've spent my long life passionately believing in my duty to use the vote won on our behalf and sadly can no longer use it without significant compromise I'm unwilling to make.

IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 21:34

Have only just had time to catch up with thread.

I think I am back where I usually am. Either not voting or voting for a local candidate (non aligned) just so that Labour doesn't look like everybody thinks they are wonderful.

But also, although I earlier said I wasn't wanting to base my decision of the national politics, have been a bit taken aback by the with holding votes statement that their great leader came out with. (Not that I am unconcerned about their position on women but even if they aren't as loud about this is what Labour had been imlementing.

And it reminded me, but I didn't copy the link, that I saw a candidate, I think Reform, saying something along the lines of Muslims shouldn't be allowed to vote.

So it seems that on the maybe not that outer limit are the extremists, and then in the middle are those who maybe notionally better, but probably just muddle through.

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SionnachRuadh · 19/04/2026 22:15

And it reminded me, but I didn't copy the link, that I saw a candidate, I think Reform, saying something along the lines of Muslims shouldn't be allowed to vote.

It's not impossible that there's some unvetted dingbat on the candidates list, but Zia Yusuf and Laila Cunningham are both hugely popular with Reform members. That kind of sentiment online mostly comes from Rupert Lowe fans.

I'm in a position where I genuinely don't know how I'll vote. Labour have been in power in my borough forever; I have no confidence in the Greens to be any better, and in some respects I think they'd be worse; and the opposition to Labour in my ward is mostly from Gaza Independents.

I'll ask some probing questions of canvassers if I see them. But I haven't seen any yet.

IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 22:24

SionnachRuadh · 19/04/2026 22:15

And it reminded me, but I didn't copy the link, that I saw a candidate, I think Reform, saying something along the lines of Muslims shouldn't be allowed to vote.

It's not impossible that there's some unvetted dingbat on the candidates list, but Zia Yusuf and Laila Cunningham are both hugely popular with Reform members. That kind of sentiment online mostly comes from Rupert Lowe fans.

I'm in a position where I genuinely don't know how I'll vote. Labour have been in power in my borough forever; I have no confidence in the Greens to be any better, and in some respects I think they'd be worse; and the opposition to Labour in my ward is mostly from Gaza Independents.

I'll ask some probing questions of canvassers if I see them. But I haven't seen any yet.

I did try to find the link and suspect that by posting before checking I maybe got it wrong.

I think it was probably a comment in an article about Reformbeing told they should bet rid of 2 candidates who have made or have had revealed, anti muslim remarks.

And I started reading comments on the article. And I think this was a comment - which got quite a lot of support.

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Planner2026 · 19/04/2026 22:26

NO. The greens are all about wiping away women’s rights in order to pander to men in dresses. Bonkers, misogynistic, dangerous.

IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 22:27

As if in answer to the question is it a party's manifesto or is it anything to break the stranglehold of Labour and Tory Parties:

Reform voters shift to Greens amid growing ‘disenchantment with politics’
Elections expert Lord Hayward corroborates this trend, citing a growing “disenchantment with politics” that sees voters moving from Reform to the Greens.
https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/reform-greens-farage-hannah-spencer-b2960282.html

Reform voters shift to Greens amid growing ‘disenchantment with politics’

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/reform-greens-farage-hannah-spencer-b2960282.html

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IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 22:29

Planner2026 · 19/04/2026 22:26

NO. The greens are all about wiping away women’s rights in order to pander to men in dresses. Bonkers, misogynistic, dangerous.

As is Labour! They just dont shout about it.

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OverlyFragrant · 19/04/2026 22:31

That's exactly what I plan on doing.
A donkey wearing a red rosette could win where I live and you can tell. The council just take the piss out of residents.

SionnachRuadh · 19/04/2026 22:32

IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 22:24

I did try to find the link and suspect that by posting before checking I maybe got it wrong.

I think it was probably a comment in an article about Reformbeing told they should bet rid of 2 candidates who have made or have had revealed, anti muslim remarks.

And I started reading comments on the article. And I think this was a comment - which got quite a lot of support.

Yeah, there's a lot of online stuff where the Rupert Youth are sharing graphics of "foreigners" standing as Reform candidates - many of whom are just mixed race Brits or white people with East European or Jewish surnames.

Then it turns out there's a Muslim lad standing as a Restore Britain candidate in Sheffield, and hilarity ensues

NoisyHiker · 19/04/2026 22:34

IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 22:27

As if in answer to the question is it a party's manifesto or is it anything to break the stranglehold of Labour and Tory Parties:

Reform voters shift to Greens amid growing ‘disenchantment with politics’
Elections expert Lord Hayward corroborates this trend, citing a growing “disenchantment with politics” that sees voters moving from Reform to the Greens.
https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/reform-greens-farage-hannah-spencer-b2960282.html

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I think I'm going to have to call bull on that one.

I heavily doubt that people who were intending to vote reform are now switching to green. That's not a swing, that's a leap across the grand canyon. Have they suddenly got a hankering for open borders?

I have heard of some planning to switch to Restore (which while I don't like it, makes sense if Reforms policies interested them).

IwantToRetire · 19/04/2026 22:42

NoisyHiker · 19/04/2026 22:34

I think I'm going to have to call bull on that one.

I heavily doubt that people who were intending to vote reform are now switching to green. That's not a swing, that's a leap across the grand canyon. Have they suddenly got a hankering for open borders?

I have heard of some planning to switch to Restore (which while I don't like it, makes sense if Reforms policies interested them).

I think is some areas / regions it might just be true.

But suspect not in others.

Not sure that pollsters have ever really reflected what is happening in the run up to elections.

Most people are totally uninterested and then vote out of habit, or something that caught their eye or ear in a news report.

Those we are hearing about now are a minority who have strong views, and the news outlets just magnify what they are saying.

Even if Reform are losing votes, and even if the Greens are getting more votes, there is nothing to say these are the same people.

It is just as likely to be 2 totally different trends happening at the same time.

Reform voters disillusioned with Reform in power.

More Labour voters thinking how can it go on getting any worse and thinking of transferring to the Greens.

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Chersfrozenface · 20/04/2026 07:07

Intrigued by a sentence in a BBC story about the council elections in Birmingham, I went looking for the Greens' promises for that city.

They include "Restart large-scale council house building in Birmingham".

The council has only just (March 2026) been able to claim it is no longer bankrupt, after making huge spending cuts, raising council tax 17.5% over 2 years and selling off assets.

Where do the Greens think they're going to get the money to "restart large-scale council house building"?

starrynightscoldmornings · 20/04/2026 07:12

Thankfully my local council isn’t up for elections this year. Hopefully when it is, reform will have crawled back to whatever hole they came from

Tontostitis · 20/04/2026 07:20

No never and I voted Green for years. Their failures in the Gender Wars, their active campaigning to strip away years of feminism and destroy women and children's safe spaces has led to doxing, on line harassment physical attacks and rapes. The Green Party should be disbanded and buried anyone who votes for them knowing about Amy Challoner is despicable.

GirlsInGreen · 20/04/2026 07:21

Christ no! They are a bunch of woman hating/jew hating loons.
And i'm in Birmingham where successive Lab Councils have left the City in absolute tatters!
The Greens are as dangerous as Reform imho.
The best we can hope for here is no overall control & hope consensus leaves us at not too mad decisions.
What a shit show it will be!

starrynightscoldmornings · 20/04/2026 07:22

Tontostitis · 20/04/2026 07:20

No never and I voted Green for years. Their failures in the Gender Wars, their active campaigning to strip away years of feminism and destroy women and children's safe spaces has led to doxing, on line harassment physical attacks and rapes. The Green Party should be disbanded and buried anyone who votes for them knowing about Amy Challoner is despicable.

But who is there that actually protects women? Reform’s policies are designed to punish child free women and strip back our rights (including eventual restriction of abortion rights). I find that infinitely more terrifying.

starrynightscoldmornings · 20/04/2026 07:22

GirlsInGreen · 20/04/2026 07:21

Christ no! They are a bunch of woman hating/jew hating loons.
And i'm in Birmingham where successive Lab Councils have left the City in absolute tatters!
The Greens are as dangerous as Reform imho.
The best we can hope for here is no overall control & hope consensus leaves us at not too mad decisions.
What a shit show it will be!

The leader of the Green Party is Jewish.

GirlsInGreen · 20/04/2026 07:23

I know! Even more terrifying.