Poor Semenya

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https://news.sky.com/story/if-women-must-stop-competing-so-be-it-semenyas-rallying-cry-over-olympics-transgender-athlete-ban-13525463

He's fighting for women's dignity apparently. The article says nothing about the children he's fathered, whilst being a woman of course.

Whatever you think of Castor Semenya, it is a myth and a conspiracy theory to claim she is the biological father of her children - this is highly unlikely to be medically possible, apart from anything else. If you can't make your case against her without lying, perhaps your case isn't as strong as you thought.

He is the male parent of two children. He is their father.

Yes he didn't produce the sperm that got his wife pregnant but the mother and father of adopted children are still their mother and father

Erik Schinegger fathered his child naturally (after surgery). Depending on the specific DSD, males with DSDs can father children.

ETA- See approx. 8 mins into the above video.

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There are far better grounds on which to criticise Semenya than his, disputed, family arrangements.

Whilst individuals with 5-ARD don't produce sperm, their internal testes do contain precursor cells which can be harvested surgically: dna from these cells is then injected into the cytoplasm of an ovum in a form of ivf. CS's children could have been conceived like this or using donor sperm. It doesn't matter because it's not relevant to sport (quite interesting though).

Ok,I apologise if he didn't father the children, that's what I have read but if it's incorrect then I take it back. I stand by the rest of my statement and the feeling behind it.

You need to read better stuff.

Sorry, but you assume I am white?

But for the sake if this conversation it’s completely irrelevant and disingenuous to use ‘semenya is a father’ to make any kind of biological point. It weakens your position rather than supports it.

Castor has stated in an interview something to the effect of 'my testicles don't make me any less of a woman'. He knows he isn't a woman. It's sad that he was misdiagnosed as a baby but that isn't the fault of the hundreds of woman that he displaced in the many competitions he ran in.

CS is intersex so insisting on ‘he’ is not the gotcha you think it is.

we need proper, intelligent strong arguments. Not emotive jabs.

the argument stands up for itself without cheap shots that have no logical basis

I'm just glad he is no longer able to compete against women. He should have his medals, he won running against women, taken away from him and they should be given to the rightful female finishers.

He's a man with a DSD. He has internal testes. A person who has testes is a man. He knows that.

The DSD he has, 5ARD, is a male DSD

It's far more disingenuous to pretend that Semenya is a woman

Semenya is male with a DSD that only males can have (5ARD) this all came out in the court case.

Semenya is not a woman and it's very clear he does not and has not believed he was one back into his childhood. He has a DSD that has been very lucrative for him and the people behind him, in exploiting a loophole in women's sport for their personal benefit, and it's made a nice living for him. The women athletes he's displaced and taken funding from are as unimportant to him as women's sports are beyond his personal benefit.

There is no increase to the 'dignity of women' by permitting a man to abuse women's sports and women's athletes. These mad insistence that women's suffering at these men's hands is somehow something noble and wonderful really is the last gasp of this nonsense. But it's irrelevant, as now, finally, and due to men including this one abusing women's sports, that loophole has been closed. How he feels about it is no longer of any relevance.

White people? What about all the black women who have missed out on the opportunities and wealth he has accumulated through being a massive cheating bloke?

He has a dsd that only affects men
He isn't between sexes; he is male,complete with his internal testicles

Caster Semenya is male. He is a man. He knows he is a man. We don’t know exactly when he found out but I suspect it was well before he won 800m gold medal in 2016. He is now grifting by pretending he is advocating for women. When asked, 82% of women athletes (who responded) said they wanted to retain the sex tests.

Erik Schinegger is white. He is also a male with a DSD that only males can have. He also completed in the female class (skiing in this case) until it was found that he was not female.

He is not ‘intersex’, he has a specific DSD that only affects males.