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RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 00:49

I think it's horrible. Nobody ever seems to think how the child will feel about it. I'd hate to discover I had Frankenstein-esque origins like this, just awful.

nocoolnamesleft · 24/02/2026 00:51

At least, with that diagnosis, she will have had her own ovaries.

purpleme12 · 24/02/2026 00:57

Well is it any different from taking an Organ from someone who's passed away....
I'm not sure it is really

Februarysiceandsleet · 24/02/2026 00:57

From the article:

  • "Did the NHS pay for the womb transplant?
No. Each womb transplant costs about £30,000 and is fully funded by the charity Womb Transplant UK, including payment to the NHS for theatre time and the patient's stay in a ward.

The operations are only carried out at times when the NHS is not using an operating theatre, so they do not impact NHS waiting lists.

Surgeons and medical staff involved in the transplant have not been paid for their time."

Are waiting lists affected mostly by theatre time, or ward availability?

FlayOtters · 24/02/2026 01:13

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 00:49

I think it's horrible. Nobody ever seems to think how the child will feel about it. I'd hate to discover I had Frankenstein-esque origins like this, just awful.

fascinating, why would you care? Would you feel the same if your mother had received a blood transfusion while pregnant with you? how about a new kidney?

Friendlygingercat · 24/02/2026 01:14

As a cure for the falling birthrate one day we will have the science to enable babies to be born and nurtured in a lab. This will enable non-fertile women to have children. It will spare those who wish it the pain and horror of childbirth. Individual women will no longer have to incapacitate themselves and go about like a beached whale for nine months more children might be born. A couple will deposit their seed at the birthing center and go back 9 months later to collect their child. Just like picking up the shopping from Asda.

Random321 · 24/02/2026 01:17

Other organs are donated, why not a womb?

I can't have children and wouldn't have used this method to try either, but wouldn't judge anyone who did.

My womb is effectively useless but if it wasn't, I wouldn't twice about it.

When you're dead you don't need body- why not let someone else use them?

Psychosislotus · 24/02/2026 01:20

Friendlygingercat · 24/02/2026 01:14

As a cure for the falling birthrate one day we will have the science to enable babies to be born and nurtured in a lab. This will enable non-fertile women to have children. It will spare those who wish it the pain and horror of childbirth. Individual women will no longer have to incapacitate themselves and go about like a beached whale for nine months more children might be born. A couple will deposit their seed at the birthing center and go back 9 months later to collect their child. Just like picking up the shopping from Asda.

Edited

That is horrendous.

You know baby listens to your heartbeat, processes the nutrients you eat, is exposed to the pathogens in your environment, learns your voice, and the accent and sounds of their dialect before they are even born.

Let’s all just be born as vessels with a huge empty unexplainable void in our souls and sent to the ai workhouse to process error logs.

Franjipanl8r · 24/02/2026 01:24

I don’t have any issues taking a donor organ if I needed one and someone else was willing to donate. It’s no different to a lung or kidney transplant IMO.

IwantToRetire · 24/02/2026 01:27

Friendlygingercat · 24/02/2026 01:14

As a cure for the falling birthrate one day we will have the science to enable babies to be born and nurtured in a lab. This will enable non-fertile women to have children. It will spare those who wish it the pain and horror of childbirth. Individual women will no longer have to incapacitate themselves and go about like a beached whale for nine months more children might be born. A couple will deposit their seed at the birthing center and go back 9 months later to collect their child. Just like picking up the shopping from Asda.

Edited

What you have written is in fact what Shulamith Firestone an early radical feminist thought would / should be the future to allow women to not be tied to their reproductive function.

She wrote the Dialectic of Sex and was very influential at the time https://teoriaevolutiva.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/firestone-shulamith-dialectic-sex-case-feminist-revolution.pdf

Baby born from dead donor womb transplant in UK first
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Franjipanl8r · 24/02/2026 01:28

Friendlygingercat · 24/02/2026 01:14

As a cure for the falling birthrate one day we will have the science to enable babies to be born and nurtured in a lab. This will enable non-fertile women to have children. It will spare those who wish it the pain and horror of childbirth. Individual women will no longer have to incapacitate themselves and go about like a beached whale for nine months more children might be born. A couple will deposit their seed at the birthing center and go back 9 months later to collect their child. Just like picking up the shopping from Asda.

Edited

We’ll wipe ourselves out from diseases and lack of food caused by microplastic pollution before we get to that point.

IwantToRetire · 24/02/2026 01:29

Interested to see the response so far, and wonder what others will have to say before I can check back tomorrow (later today)

Have to say I assumed all responses would be about TW begging women for their wombs.

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viques · 24/02/2026 01:42

Frankly I would rather see women using transplanted wombs to grow their children than see women using surrogate wombs.

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 01:55

FlayOtters · 24/02/2026 01:13

fascinating, why would you care? Would you feel the same if your mother had received a blood transfusion while pregnant with you? how about a new kidney?

Ask a baby who has been born into such grim medical chaos how they feel. I only know being born of two consenting adults, and even then it was an unhappy outcome.

Ihavelostthegame · 24/02/2026 01:55

As someone who was let down for over a decade by the NHS and as a direct result developed endometrial cancer and had to have a hysterectomy in my early 30’s if it were an option for me I might seriously consider it. I was on the fence about having children prior to diagnosis but always leaned on the would probably have kids. Having it brutally ripped away from me and at a time where a significant number of friends and colleagues were having kids was horrendous. And not at all acknowledged by anyone around me. To be given a second chance would be incredible.

Ihavelostthegame · 24/02/2026 01:58

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 01:55

Ask a baby who has been born into such grim medical chaos how they feel. I only know being born of two consenting adults, and even then it was an unhappy outcome.

So because you had an unhappy childhood that automatically means children born in a completely different set of circumstances to you must automatically feel the same way as you.
No child consents to their existence or birth whatever the circumstances. And whether they are happy or unhappy about it doesn’t change that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/02/2026 02:02

I feel the same way about this as I do other transplants.

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 02:06

@Ihavelostthegame "No child consents to their existence or birth whatever the circumstances. And whether they are happy or unhappy about it doesn’t change that."

Wow, okay. If only I'd known it could all have been perfect.

BeeHive909 · 24/02/2026 02:08

Rather this then surrogacy.

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 02:12

"Each womb transplant costs about £30,000 and is fully funded by the charity Womb Transplant UK, including payment to the NHS for theatre time and the patient's stay in a ward." Honestly, I think this is grotesque.

Can't we just accept that, sometimes, women are infertile and can't have a baby?

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 02:15

BeeHive909 · 24/02/2026 02:08

Rather this then surrogacy.

Both bad.

SingAling · 24/02/2026 02:22

I am full of joy for the happy couple.
We have kidney transplants, cochlear implants, so I see this as another way to help people to have fuller lives.

Crushed23 · 24/02/2026 02:22

Friendlygingercat · 24/02/2026 01:14

As a cure for the falling birthrate one day we will have the science to enable babies to be born and nurtured in a lab. This will enable non-fertile women to have children. It will spare those who wish it the pain and horror of childbirth. Individual women will no longer have to incapacitate themselves and go about like a beached whale for nine months more children might be born. A couple will deposit their seed at the birthing center and go back 9 months later to collect their child. Just like picking up the shopping from Asda.

Edited

Here’s hoping! I can’t wait for advances in science to relieve women of pregnancy and childbirth (who want it, of course). It’s not just the 9 months, full recovery can take years.

Ihavelostthegame · 24/02/2026 02:22

RogueFemale · 24/02/2026 02:12

"Each womb transplant costs about £30,000 and is fully funded by the charity Womb Transplant UK, including payment to the NHS for theatre time and the patient's stay in a ward." Honestly, I think this is grotesque.

Can't we just accept that, sometimes, women are infertile and can't have a baby?

Coming no doubt from a fertile woman with kids! You have no fucking idea! Try having a shred of empathy!

Crushed23 · 24/02/2026 02:29

Ihavelostthegame · 24/02/2026 02:22

Coming no doubt from a fertile woman with kids! You have no fucking idea! Try having a shred of empathy!

Some people just hate scientific advancements which give women more choice. That’s why it’s only ever a problem when a woman becomes a mother at 48 and never when a man becomes a father at the same age. Despite women having a higher life expectancy than men.

Misogynistic bollocks that can be swiftly ignored, basically.

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