Guidance for schools in BBC news

[WallaceinAnderland]

'The legally-binding advice for all schools in England also says there are "no exceptions" for single-sex facilities, including toilets and changing rooms, with single-sex sports also protected.'

Vast Majority of parents should be told if pupils question their gender

Yes they have been policing it. Our local secondary described how they would bring pronoun ‘offenders’ in at lunchtime to help them understand their error. They stopped short of using the terms ‘re-education’ or ‘struggle sessions’

We chose a different school 🙄

This is what needs to end.

They've just guaranteed the promotion of gender ideology into school.

They didnt have much option to keep sex=sex in schools, especially as GRA is for adults not children.

But saying that a child can 'socially transition' is telling every other child in the school that sex change is possible and normal and should be respected.

We know for girls this is a social contagion, what does this do to stop it?

Also, when a grown arsed man tell the same children he's a women, what are they going to believe?

Only last week one of my FE student's name had changed on teams and registers to what they described as a "non-binary" name. Told me she was changing her name and pronouns on teams and was waiting for her new student ID badge to be printed.
I teach an external exam class and mentioned to her that if she changes her ID badge then the invigilators can't match her up to the exam entry name and she won't be able to take the exams on the day as external invigilators must do this step too ensure security etc. (Also JCQ inspectors also do and hoc drop ins to check this type of thing). She said she still wants to do her exams as she's only 16 and won't be able to change her name legally and mum and dad don't know about her new name and being non-binary. Apparently her tutor hadn't discussed this with her and had just affirmed her choice of name change with a note on our system that from now on she was "" but to use her original name if talking to parents.
No shit this happens monthly to me.

It’s a consultation. Let’s mobilise to respond.

What do you mean, Down not Up?

I was trying to work out if Scotland was covered by it.

I mean the "consultation" is enforcing the SCOTUK ruling.

I will guarantee that there will emerge some performative ignorance from people who insist that it can "correct" SCOTUK.(Especially if they can grift on it).

So pleased for you, your Head must be anxious this evening and deservedly so. Chickens are coming home to roost!

I had to Google, Supreme Court Of The UK (SCOTUK).
I was reading it as Scot as in Scotland. 😜

It now makes perfect sense, thanks

Let's hope so.

But we didn't have all this nonsense when I was at school in the 1970s. What the hell has happened to society?

Gonna get a t shirt with “we won”
written on it and wear it to the next parents evening.

the head is always there welcoming parents through the door. I’ll go shake a hand.

Why the FUCK can’t we encourage our children to fight against g stereotyping instead of wanging on about “social transition”.its so regressive.

I can see a lot of good stuff however on physical guidance @keepingtoiletssafe

I think the guidance is good - it's strange that it allows 'transitioning' ,but you still have to use the same toilet as your fellow 'assigned at births'

It's what we've been saying all along really - you do you, dress however you please, call yourself what you like but keep out of single sex spaces for the opposite sex. Simple really.

There is a section about discouraging gender stereotyping. The parts about 'stealthing' also worth reading. Emphasised clearly that teachers are not qualified and must not advise on gender, they cannot transition a child without parent knowledge and involvement, and that conversations need to be had in depth about the child's best interests, other contributing factors, and the aim to keep all avenues open for the child.

Second Reddit thread.

they are seven shades of mental

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1r2ymrg/the_consultation_on_schools_guidance_has_been/

Oh, I really hope so 🤞

That little pronoun will keep the whole idea circulating in schools, with more ROGD inevitably following. It will keep promoting the lie that a school child is a monster if they don’t collide with the lie that the trans child is the sex they say they are, but a kind good person if they do. It will continue to propagate the idea that being transgender is a choice that will fix a troubled child’s life and get the approbation and attention.

It might discourage quite a few - especially teenage boys with AGP, and younger children whose parents have told them they are DEFINITELY a new sex in ALL ways but at school they aren't being treated like that.

It's chilling to read so many reports of children being sanctioned for "wrong" speak. It is a clear breach of their rights, but it's hard for parents to challenge schools over that even if they find out about it.
I think there was a case a couple of years ago in Oxfordshire which tried to bring in a transgender policy including sanctions against children for perceived "transphobia". They dropped it when they were about to be taken to court as it was an infringement of other pupils' rights. We might all have to keep an eye on schools' behaviour policies and fight this nonsense wherever they try to make it official.
The saddest thing I've heard is that pupils caught up in trans ideology end up more socially isolated as other children don't want to risk being punished for saying the wrong thing.

That policy is still in place in Brighten schools the toolkit Oxford based on is live and happening here :)

maintaining single sex spaces part does pop the fantasy bubble somewhat for staff and the pupils involved

it also helps girls maintain boundaries. It sets an example for them in many ways

This new 'guidance' is a total fudge and a confusing mess.

It is implicitly assumed that teachers and schools are already open to the idea of socially transitioning pupils should they request it........whilst at the same time trying to create get out clauses for both teachers and pupils who do not want to use pronouns etc.

It doesn't make clear who decides what is in the child's best interests. What if there is a pushy parent who demands the school transitions their child?

This also leaves individual schools and teachers at the mercy of the attitude of their headteacher towards the concept of transitioning; whilst also not being able to penalise activist teachers who enforce this nonsense. Some teachers will be all on board, and others will be rejecting......creating even more confusion for the 'trans identified child', as well as their classmates.

BP has said this however. It also embedded in the statutory RSE curriculum that children must not be taught you can change sex.

I've not been on MN for a while but this seems like an important moment to pop back on again.

I've not RTFT yet but will do so.

On the one hand, this is a positive step forward but schools are still being given room to coerce children into believing that you can only be "kind" and "respectful" if you use a person's preferred pronouns.

My daughters' school does this and it means that children, like my older daughter (who remains vulnerable to wanting to transition), could be convinced by the school that their parents are a danger to them, if the parents won't use preferred pronouns.

Personally, I choose to use no pronouns whatsoever when I find out that someone has preferred pronouns that differ from their sex.

My daughters think that I'm being disrespectful with this position. I've tried explaining to them that I'm putting in considerable effort to avoid pronoun usage, as I know that sex-based pronouns would upset some children. I've tried explaining that it's disrespectful (to me) for anyone to expect me to use words that I don't believe - like "she" for a male etc - that it's coercive to do so, when I don't believe that anyone has a gender identity. I've tried explaining that I am not attempting to change their belief (that everyone does have a gender identity and that it's possible for this to differ from someone's sex), so I don't expect anyone to try and change my (lack of) belief in gender identity either. All to no avail.

The school has convinced them that my position is an unkind one. Thankfully, they both do understand why I won't do so for children - because social transition is not a neutral act, and I won't be a part of any child's social transition. But they think I should use "she" for the male teacher at their school who wears a dress and who everyone else refers to as "she", or for any other adult.

This is all largely thanks to the school's constant drip-feeding of the message that only preferred pronoun usage is kind and respectful. The knock-on effect of this type of "inclusion" is that vulnerable children are still being drawn to the idea that the reason they feel uncomfortable in their body is because they are trapped in one that is the wrong sex. They are having their own belief (in their gendered soul) upheld by everyone who affirms their social transition, making it far more likely that they will find themselves locked into it and on a path towards medical transition.

I'll read the updated guidance but I don't expect it to address this key point. Considering it's going to be a part of the statutory safeguarding guidance, it's fundamental that it must because the safeguarding of children relies on clear, reality-based boundaries. Obfuscation of biological sex results in the opposite of safeguarding: it will lead vulnerable children towards permanently harming themselves, based on an unfalsifiable belief that they have a gender that differs from their sex.

Edited for clarity.