“A school faces a threat of legal action over policies that protect all children – so we’re fighting back.”

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

https://goodlaw.social/a8mo

the GLP are sort of the curse of bad luck so let’s see what happens…

Here is a reminder that safeguarding is only expected to minimise the chance of harm by predators. No safeguarding measure for publicly accessible provisions will ever provide 100% protection. That is not achievable.

Also, safeguarding principles are not only those that minimise the risk of physical harm, but they also are there for many other areas of protection. Including privacy and dignity within groups of people categorised by sex class.

You haven't got the first idea of what it means to be a woman @onepostwonder or about safeguarding.

You know how you feel. Not how women feel.

Summation

Men and boys should be given access to the OPs girl in
▪︎ her shower area
▪︎ her changing room and
▪︎ her toilet block

Gender critical beliefs paint every experience and belief I have as predatory and incompatible with safeguarding. So, I am not surprised?

Men and boys are not women.

Girls are in her shower area, etc, etc. They are not given access. They access, as girls.

Edited to add: If that is indeed the policy. Gender critical beliefs could twist the intent of the policy any which way.

No, they still show a majority against 'puberty blockers for under 16s'.
52% to 31% with 17% 'not sure'. The percentages against opposite sex hormones or surgery are even higher.

https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/YouGov_-_Transgender_study_2024.pdf

Rather the OP should thank the adults in the school for deciding to force his girl to change beside a boy just because that boy said "I want to do that"

Awful though it is, there will be people in that school who genuinely think exactly this. Maybe most, if not all of them.

That the school promoting inclusion, being kind, being 'progressive', are all things you should be bloody grateful for.

The detriment to the girls, and the fact that is they who are being sacrificed, is fucking nowhere. Doesn't even crop up. Why would it? That's their job. Dur.

i'm copying this from another thread, even though it's about women in sport, the attitude is identical.

As one leading male sports journalist argued, in a 2019 column for The Independent: “Let’s say transgender athletes pour into women’s sport, and let’s say, despite the flimsy and poorly understood relationship between testosterone and elite performance, they dominate everything they touch. They sweep up Grand Slam tennis titles and cycling world championships. They monopolise the Olympics. They fill our football and cricket and netball teams. Why would that be bad? …In a way, it would be inspiring.”

Exercising the most violent misogyny inspires this nasty fucker. And he's happy to write about it in a national newspaper. Paid for it, in fact

Urghh. I remember this article.

Written by a man who has no fucking idea.

Ugh

How can trans girls be men? They are boys.

i didn’t ask if you could understand that girls might feel boys (trans girls) might be predatory did I?

please answer my question. It was quite simple.

You are upselling your strong and firmly held belief that
• if you can just change the meaning of girl and of woman that
• your advocy of allowing men and boys have access to the body of the OPs teen girl
● is not you advocating to allow any man or boy gain access to the body of the OPs girl.

I understand women who prefer that we don't engage with certain types of poster. I think that there are times when it is helpful to engage and times when it is derailing a fast-moving, information filled thread. If an OP, such as @SingleSexSpacesInSchools, asks us to stop then I would. Otherwise I think operation let them speak continues to have value for lurkers. I lurked and listened to both sides before coming to a conclusion (that gender ideologists are batshit).

People who were born male are not, and can never be, women.

Yes, for some questions there is a majority against. I would answer against those same questions as stated.

But, for the vast majority of other questions those in the "Have family member or friend who is trans" column are far more supportive of trans people than those outside the column.

Re Your edit

You plonk yourself on a thread to advocate for yourself.

Your choice of thread to plonk on is about a teen girl being forced to allow a male (such as you claim to be) have access to her body in what should lawfully be her female only single sex space.

You are clearly enjoying your activity.

Kings College did a study and 39% of respondents thought that trans rights had “gone too far” and a substantial group didn’t know or were unsure. Maybe your generation managed to operate on stealth but in campaigning as you have done, you’ve spoiled your own party. It’s over. The 39% figure is only going one way the more people realise that “ be kind” actually involves being very unkind to women and children.

No one in your life will tell you the full “truth” of what they believe. If your performance here is anything to go by, they’d avoid saying anything contrary to you, in order to dodge being mansplained for (?) days. It would appear you have high levels of mind blindness not to have an inkling of this at your age

I share the belief that trans girls are girls and trans boys are boys. Unlike some gender critical people, I would not refer to trans girls as men.

I guess I cannot provide an answer that is acceptable to those with gender critical beliefs.

You are clearly enjoying your activity.

Yes.
Could have started his own thread.
Could have picked a more appropriate thread to post on (if there is one?)
Had to have this one.
A thread about a teen girl.
Doesn't realise his own monopolising behaviour.
Clearly enjoying the activity and the attention.

Many people share my strong and firmly held belief.

The rest of your post is a bad faith straw man.

I had a look on Companies House. The GLP has very little overhead - and very high consultancy/legal fees. Presumably JM’s (and others) private billing. Not a bad little income generator?!

Doesn't realise his own monopolising behaviour?

Nope imo he sees it and his strong and firm belief is that if he just keeps posting that he will continue to enjoy his activity.

[(Edit)
And he will continue to engage with the usual tropes😬 ]

Actually you are right @AnSolas
It's all part of the activity

If I remember correctly, sometime on this thread it was suggested that ‘all’ children have the right to privacy in a change room.

This can be taken two ways. First, of course, if a child wishes to use a cubicle, they should if one is available.

However, schools don’t have the space or the time to allow every student to change in an individual cubicle. My child’s recent build primary school had their senior class changing in make shift rooms, not even purpose built change rooms.

There are also no rights governing policy for organisations in general to provide privacy from the same sex category of people in that way. Hence there are still communal changing rooms for each sex.

It is an unreasonable expectation that policy is changed purely to suit male people who have identities that have then rejecting male single sex provisions. As they are not female people, they should not and should never have been accessing female single sex provisions.

In school, it is unreasonable to say that the solution is to have individual cubicles because all children have a right to privacy, when that ‘right to privacy’ is being misrepresented.

No one mentions “trans girls” because it is males who are usually the problem in relation to predatory behaviour. Sex sometimes matters. Nothing to do with trans. And it’s about privacy and dignity as much as safety.

It's not odd at all.

Men like that view women and girls simply as props in their own fantasy. They're not concerned about how the girls feel because they view them as things, not people.