John Lithgow on JK Rowling

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basically admits he hasn’t bothered thinking about her position on gender identity. The Harry Potter books are about tolerance so her stance is ‘inexplicable’, yet he’s never met her and only ‘read about her views’.
Read her for yourself pal! Do your own fucking thinking!

www.theguardian.com/books/2026/feb/02/john-lithgow-says-he-finds-jk-rowlings-stance-on-trans-rights-ironic-and-inexplicable?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Evidence of this please? And not second or third hand statements.

I will say also that any male who enters female spaces is a predator. There are some transwomen who do not enter female only spaces, and they are not those things.

And above explains how JKR undermines self determination via her false belief that her own subjective opinion is a fact. In the act of rejecting the subjectivity of another's experience as a 'fantasy' she invalidates their claim to self determination. And herein lies the perverseness of her position..the inability to recognise fact from opinion.

If you are unable to reorganise this ^ block of text into basic english it is you problem

Fact : a male of any species is not any type of woman.

Opinion : a male adult human who holds a personal view point that his relabling his male body as being a that of a woman makes him a female of any species.

So starting point on basic english words

Woman

Is this you trying to claim the word woman means some men and some women?

Or

Is this just that you have decided that woman should mean some men and some women?

Again you are posting second and third hand accounts that twist and distort what she has said, and lies about her. Please post evidence from her OWN WORDS such as from jkrowling.com , not malicious second and third hand accounts that LIE about what she said. Anyone who comes here and makes these statements about her have never read her OWN WORDS but use a second or third hand source that is full of lies, manipulations, twisting what she said. Copy and paste HER....OWN....WORDS please. Maybe start here and show us what she has said that is 'transphobic' in this please: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Define what you think "self determination" means.

To you, does it mean a male has the 'right' to enter female only spaces, because he says he feels like a woman?

Does Rachel Dolezal, a snow white woman who blackened her face and donned an Afro wig to get a job with the NAACP, has the right to appropriate and identify into the African American race?

How far does your definition of self determination go?

Do you even believe that the female sex has the right of self determination and to exclude the male sex from our spaces?

Like demonising & dehumanising trans people?

You keep posting that LIE, but you have yet to provide any EVIDENCE that she has ever done this.

No, the malicious link you posted twisted everything she said out of context and LIED about what she said. Which is why I posted the ACTUAL link of what JK ACTUALLY said.

It is not 'perverse' to say no male can turn into a female and that females and RAPE SURVIVORS LIKE ME have a right to female only change rooms.

All this "it's just a subjective opinion" malarkey about "what is a woman?" is just self-indulgent, postmodern messing about with words, and irrelevant when it comes to practicalities.

It doesn't matter whether you talk about "women's" spaces or "female" spaces or "whatever" spaces. Anyone who is not being falsely naive knows we are talking about spaces for the people whose reproductive function (along with the assumptions about them which are made because of that reproductive function) renders them vulnerable in the face of the people with the other sort of reproductive function.

The reproductive functions are a fact, not a subjective opinion; and the abuse of the first category of person by the second is also, all too frequently, a fact. Redefining the word woman to include a subset of men doesn't undo the realities underneath. It just attempts to muddy the waters so that we can't see clearly.

Quite, & cui bono?

100% pure unadulterated misogyny, and man do these vicious old blokes love to jump on the bashing of a woman who dares have a perfectly fair opinion and air it occasionally. Men like this would love to go back in time so they could burn women like her at the stake, no question

And that is how i know that the abuse, harassment and mass bullying of J k Rowling is pure unmitigated misogyny - a woman can be an extraordinary humanitarian, a fine writer who got youngsters reading again, a hard working single parent who escaped a violent husband and worked her way out of poverty to riches, writing the most wonderful imaginative books.... And still she isn't good enough to be treated as a full human being. Because women are never good enough

This argument falls apart by virtue of the fact that the validity of a category doesn't automatically entitle it to the same treatment. Minors having the same right to exist as adults doesn't mean they are entitled to be treated the same because utility is the barometer.

Another example would be women's sports excluding trans women because of a sporting advantage that sporting organisations by & large have adjusted to.

And it kind of betrays the credibility of the gender critical movement that some have taken the position of denying the validity of trans people purely because they believe there will be policy & law implications. Zealots aren't people that are known to act in good faith & for the public good.

Zealots aren't people that are known to act in good faith & for the public good.

We're very aware of this here on this board.

From your article:

The world is going through a lot right now. With a global pandemic still in full swing and Black Lives Matter protests happening all over the world every day, J.K. Rowling thought it would be a good time to remind everyone that she’s still transphobic. And in the middle of Pride month, no less.

yes, there’s never a good time for women’s rights to be discussed, is there?

Certainly not during Pride month, the holiest of all month.

Mate, some things are fact, and some are fantasy. You don’t get to make other people share your self image. Biological sex falls under the heading of facts.

These people really are beyond parody. One wonders why they chose to make such an awful whining fuss about JK Rowling saying biological sex was important when there was a global pandemic on.

Did you see the thread attempt about JKR and her boat? Mumsnet has hidden it and I doubt it will reappear. Utterly and completely mad.

In a legal context, words matter. If some males are women, then they are automatically entitled to anything that the law (or any rule more generally) says is reserved for women.

Your own example amply demonstrates this: both adults (I don't know if the word "majors" Exists in English, it does in French for over-18s) and minors are humans. So when something is reserved for under 18s, we don't use "humans" - we use "minors". We could use " Humans under 18", but we chose very long ago not to do it for simplicity. Now if suddenly we want to accommodate some 60-year old people who want to be called minors BUT still think they should not have the rights meant for under-18s that means we need to comb through every single piece of legislation and replace minors with something else. And in the meantime the 60yo unjustly get the rights. Nobody wants that.

These 60 yo just need to come up with an alternative word, fullstop

I did, the OP has also posted a thread about that crap trans sport “research” published today.

They’ve mostly adjusted to that sporting advantage by changing their policy to exclude men, haven’t they, gretel?

Being female is not 'a concept'.

That is grossly offensive.

Being female is a daily reality. Childbirth and the reproductive system is not 'a concept'.

It's a 'concept' that only one type of human DIES producing the next generation of human.

I really don't think I've heard much more disgusting on this forum tbh.

Next week will be told that you can self determine if you get pregnant or not, won't we. Yes transwomen get pregnant ALL the time. It's dreadful when their birth control fails or they concieve due to rape.

There really is no comparison between homosexuality and gender identities.

And a material proven fact is not subjective reality. You are now attempting to philosophise established science.

It doesn’t matter how someone might interpret sex categories. They exist. And they have been used to create safeguarding principles to protect female people (as per biological categorisation) in any situation requiring that distinction to be observed.