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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How would you deal with T in a friendship group?

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FourSevenTwo · 25/01/2026 21:46

How would you deal with T people around you? In general and in my situation?

The main question:
A male in a friendship group decided to go full TW, starting hormones and so on, changing name to the women's form and coming out with pronouns.

Unfortunately, our language is heavily gendered*. For example, instead of Hi Alex, you would say Hi Alexi for a man and Hi Alexo for a woman. If you want to say anything in past tense, like Where were you yesterday, you have to use men's or women's form for were.
This means it is not really possible to ignore it in direct interaction.

I'm not willing to pretend through language that I see him as a woman. I don't and won't. But I don't insist on calling him him. There are some not great alternatives (it, plural - with it's own verb forms, switching to English), but they are all very noticeable.

I'd like to find a solution for our coexistence in this friendship group. I'm not asking about a language solution here, more about an approach.

I'm considering

  1. reaching him with a message, saying I've heard the news, and I can't affirm, but, I'd like to keep things civil, so is there some alternative we can agree on?

  2. ingoring the issue and limiting communication on grammatically neutral constructions (which will be limiting and obvious after a time)

  3. some other option?

To answer possible questions.

  • I'm GC woman - in the adult human female sense, in the gender identity terminology I'd claim agender. I absolutely understand people are unhappy with gendered roles, I just don't believe that trying to become/pretend to be/claiming to be the other one is the solution. And I'm sure one can't change sex.
  • It seems that majority of our shared friends are willing to be kind, some believe it, some just don't care, men with no skin in the game.
  • *I'm elsewhere in EU, not a self-ID country. I don't ask about legal aspects, just personal approach. Discussing in my country's forums would be hard, as we are a small population.
  • The group is about games, meeting at someone's home, so no issue with single sex spaces, and generally gender doesn't play a role in the group's activities.
  • Yes, I'd like to try to keep the group if possible. I see it as a political topic and I don't need to discuss politics all the time.
  • Edit to add : I've name changed for this one. Sorry it is long. And yay, I've managed to force the formatting to behave!
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ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:16

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:15

Yet you will still need to get screening for prostate cancer and not cervical cancer.

I actually don't need prostate cancer screenings anymore. After Sex Reassignment Surgery and enough Oestrogen it has reduced my chances to effectively zero. The only screenings I will need to get are breast cancer screenings.

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:17

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:15

When I categorise all men as a risk in saying that because I don't know which men "are the good ones". Until it's no men, it will be all men in my eyes and the eyes of my friends. If that's sex stereotyping, I don't care. It's what we need to do to keep ourselves safe.

Safety yes but all other factors , no

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:17

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:17

Safety yes but all other factors , no

What "other factors" do you mean?

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:18

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:17

What "other factors" do you mean?

The fact you need to ask speaks volumes. Safety is not the sole and only concern of females

FlirtsWithRhinos · 03/02/2026 10:18

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:09

I'm a transmedicalist and I use transsexual as I have fully transitioned physically. Transvestite has nothing to do with transsexualism and is literally just what gender non confirming is.

Transvestisism isn't gender non-conforming, it's conforming to gender constructs of the opposite sex. It literally requires gender constructs to exist and have meaning.

Actual gender non conforming is ignoring gender constructs and just wearing what you fancy.

Basically, gender non conforming is buying a fabulous dress and having the bust taken in to fit a male chest. Transvestisism is buying a fabulous dress and wearing fake tits to fill the bust.

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:19

Helleofabore · 03/02/2026 10:16

And again, thank you for the live demonstration on just how important accurate language is for accurate communication.

You know what men are like because you have lived experience of being male. Yet, you have just force teamed female people’s oppression from male people to attempt to convince people you are female.

I never lived life as a man or really even a boy. I transitioned before I was 18. I have no lived experience of "being male". I know what men are like because I've loved long enough as a woman to see what they've tried to do to me and my friends.

FallenSloppyDead2 · 03/02/2026 10:19

Back in the day I assumed that 'trans' meant homosexual transsexual and full genital removal. I guess I was a bit uneasy about them using female spaces but thought there must have been lots of research on how they posed absolutely no threat to women (naive, I know). Then along came the fetishists et al and I joined the GC battle. However, the opportunity that the online world has afforded us to listen to members of the HSTS community has convinced me that, beyond doubt, they have MAN written through them like a stick of rock and pose exactly as much danger to women and are as unlike women as any other man.

Helleofabore · 03/02/2026 10:21

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:14

I've transitioned to become a woman. A transsexual woman, but still a woman.

Only if you use a destabilised meaning of the word woman which then becomes a meaningless word. Because the word then includes male people.

In fact, in your use of the word, every single adult person on the planet is a woman.

Well done with that logic.

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:21

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:19

I never lived life as a man or really even a boy. I transitioned before I was 18. I have no lived experience of "being male". I know what men are like because I've loved long enough as a woman to see what they've tried to do to me and my friends.

Oh dear your grasp on reality is slim. You lived as male from the moment of conception. Whatever clothing or surgery or hormones you are still male. Live whatever life you choose but you can’t escape biological or legal reality

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:21

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:16

I actually don't need prostate cancer screenings anymore. After Sex Reassignment Surgery and enough Oestrogen it has reduced my chances to effectively zero. The only screenings I will need to get are breast cancer screenings.

You are misinformed. Oestrogen increases prostrate cancer risk.

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:21

Helleofabore · 03/02/2026 10:21

Only if you use a destabilised meaning of the word woman which then becomes a meaningless word. Because the word then includes male people.

In fact, in your use of the word, every single adult person on the planet is a woman.

Well done with that logic.

Thanks for that. Just snorted tea everywhere LOL

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:23

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:19

I never lived life as a man or really even a boy. I transitioned before I was 18. I have no lived experience of "being male". I know what men are like because I've loved long enough as a woman to see what they've tried to do to me and my friends.

You have only ever lived as a boy and a man. You life has been defined by the fact you are male.

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:23

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:21

Oh dear your grasp on reality is slim. You lived as male from the moment of conception. Whatever clothing or surgery or hormones you are still male. Live whatever life you choose but you can’t escape biological or legal reality

I just don't tell people I'm transsexual anymore and no one can tell. I'm a woman and will be until my death.

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:24

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:23

You have only ever lived as a boy and a man. You life has been defined by the fact you are male.

I've never lived as a man, never have and never will. I was a girl, then a woman. My life has been defined by my womanhood.

KnottyAuty · 03/02/2026 10:25

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:23

I just don't tell people I'm transsexual anymore and no one can tell. I'm a woman and will be until my death.

That’s not quite the same though is it

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:25

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:23

I just don't tell people I'm transsexual anymore and no one can tell. I'm a woman and will be until my death.

You mean man. As for ‘no one can tell’…. You mean you surround yourself with people who have been coerced to play along or fear for their jobs.

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:25

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:21

You are misinformed. Oestrogen increases prostrate cancer risk.

I'm going to trust my endocrinologist, surgeon and the other medic professionals than someone obsessed weirdo on Mumsnet. Sorry!

Helleofabore · 03/02/2026 10:25

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:19

I never lived life as a man or really even a boy. I transitioned before I was 18. I have no lived experience of "being male". I know what men are like because I've loved long enough as a woman to see what they've tried to do to me and my friends.

Again, thank you for making it very clear how ideological the belief that a male person can be female is. But also, I think you have also shown very clearly that you have a philosophical belief that does not reflect material reality.

It has been a very good reminder that perhaps we all needed.

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:25

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:24

I've never lived as a man, never have and never will. I was a girl, then a woman. My life has been defined by my womanhood.

You are living life as a man now. Even your posting style screams ‘male’

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:26

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:25

You mean man. As for ‘no one can tell’…. You mean you surround yourself with people who have been coerced to play along or fear for their jobs.

No, I know no one can tell. You seem to think the whole world is secretly anti-trans too when really except you weirdos no one really cares.

FallenSloppyDead2 · 03/02/2026 10:26

https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information-and-support/risk-and-symptoms/trans-women-and-prostate-cancer

Can I get prostate cancer?
Yes. Your risk may be lower if you’ve taken feminising hormones, or had gender affirming surgery that included an orchidectomy. But there is still a risk, so it’s important to know the risk factors and be aware of the symptoms.

Can trans women get prostate cancer?

Trans women have a prostate and therefore are at risk of prostate cancer and other prostate problems. Find out more.

https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information-and-support/risk-and-symptoms/trans-women-and-prostate-cancer

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:26

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:25

You are living life as a man now. Even your posting style screams ‘male’

Oh so we're gendering typing styles now? This is why we say gender critical is deeply anti feminist when you're trying to gender typing style OML

Tunnocksmilkchocolatemallow · 03/02/2026 10:27

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:25

I'm going to trust my endocrinologist, surgeon and the other medic professionals than someone obsessed weirdo on Mumsnet. Sorry!

The ones who tell you you are a woman because you take oestrogen and have had cosmetic surgery? And make a pretty profit from doing so?

FallenSloppyDead2 · 03/02/2026 10:27

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:26

No, I know no one can tell. You seem to think the whole world is secretly anti-trans too when really except you weirdos no one really cares.

No, I know no one can tell.

Said no woman ever

ATranssexualWoman · 03/02/2026 10:28

FallenSloppyDead2 · 03/02/2026 10:26

https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information-and-support/risk-and-symptoms/trans-women-and-prostate-cancer

Can I get prostate cancer?
Yes. Your risk may be lower if you’ve taken feminising hormones, or had gender affirming surgery that included an orchidectomy. But there is still a risk, so it’s important to know the risk factors and be aware of the symptoms.

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