The Countess - Womens rights group in Ireland - Report on Immigration Effects on Women & Girls

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Irish people are being forced to accept policy that transgresses fundamental boundaries and treats nature, identity, culture, family, and nationality as negotiable when in fact, the family unit, community, and inherited culture are the scaffolding of a stable society. We at The Countess are unafraid of analysing policy through the lens of womens’ rights and child safeguarding.

thecountess.ie/a-new-campaign-a-new-direction-a-new-mission/

Report: Through a Safeguarding lens, darkly: a thematic report into the International Protection Provision in Ireland

The report has identified significant shifts in the nature of sexual violence across Europe, highlighting emergent trends in opportunistic street attacks and group-based sexual assaults. The findings raise urgent questions for Irish policymakers as the State continues to accommodate over 33,000 individuals in the International Protection system without screening them against European Crime databases.

Drawing on official statistics from multiple EU member states including Austria, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Italy, and France, the report outlines clear evidence that foreign-born individuals are over-represented in sexual offence data, often by a factor of three to four, with even higher rates in specific subcategories such as gang rape.

Sounds like a brilliant piece of work. And I suddenly feel as though I now need to think more deeply/critically about news coverage which portrays those protesting about immigration hotels as right wing racists… all sounding awfully familiar…

Does anyone know if UK immigration stats are disaggregated to allow a similar comparison?

There's nothing wrong with men and women in the same restrooms or changing rooms. It's been existing longer than segregated restrooms.

Claim with no basis in fact.

And this clearly shows no cultural understanding of the snug🍻 or the ½pint.

Gridania you seem to have a serious case of the Not my Nigels that has taken over your life, Please feel free to start your own thread about this. If your Nigel is actually Donald Trump then you will get a lot of interest. If you want a serious answer then of course there will be mistaken convictions and accusations of rape and other sex offences. Studies show (and statistics show) that, compared to the offences that do not result in a conviction, these are vanishingly rare. (Hypothesis one rather than hypothesis two).

There is also the filp of if the person from that country is highly likely to be sex trafficked or human trafficked into the State by native or other nationals.

You have misunderstood the statistics. What they show is, that of all rapes reported to the police less than 3% result in convictions - this figure is for England and Wales and has held true for some years. It does not show how many men who were the subject of these reports were guilty or innocent, nor how many of the convictions were just or unjust. It compares police reports with convictions. Not all rapes are reported to the police.

There have also been studies of how often women falsely accuse men of rape and these suggest that such accusations are also in the low single figures. If this is accurate (and it may not be, it is a very difficult topic to research for fairly obvious reasons) then we have a frighteningly large number of rapes that do not result in convictions.

In kindness, I don't think you are well and suggest you step away from this thread for your own peace of mind.

No, that really is the wrong conclusion, I really can't help you further.

I'm not all saying this area is black and white, it's hugely complex. It's just made even more complex by the deliberate lack of data collection and publication until very recently.

You clearly missed the fact that I did not claim that was happening today.

If you had any idea of the culture of the country you are trying to pontificate about you would not dare to claim that Women in Ireland did not have to marry their Rapists.

That you rely on a bot ......

I can thoroughly recommend listening to the whole podcast posted by the OP. Some of the statistics are shocking.

Laoise de Brún asks, where does your empathy land? Is it with people seeking asylum or with the working class people in whose community they are foisted? Her empathy has shifted from the former to the latter.

I do see a similarity between immigration policies in Western countries and Gender policies. Imposition by a cultural elite with no debate and, seemingly, no plan. Threats to boundaries. Threats in particular to women and children. Working class populations bearing the brunt of negative effects while the cultural elite reap any benefits. Cries of 'transphobia' or 'racism' to stifle genuine concerns

You cant read what was typed Marry and Companionship are not the same words.

FYI

Individuals who are not citizens of Ireland have no rights to enter Ireland. Irish law creates rules which allow non-citizens to enter and stay by premission.

I think these articles discuss some of the ideas that my personal reevaluation of the immigration issue has involved.

I’ve gone from being extremely enthusiastic about it to being highly critical of it on grounds of class politics and feminist concerns:

https://thecritic.co.uk/how-the-west-fell-out-of-love-with-mass-migration/

https://thecritic.co.uk/against-immigrationnisme/

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-liberal-centre-has-run-out-of-ideas-on-immigration/

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-liberal-case-for-migration-is-morally-bankrupt/

You falling into petty insults because you realise that you have proved you own position to be fundementally flawed is not helping your case.

Ireland has multiple laws based on harm reduction and multiple laws telling people what to do and what not to do

Ireland actively deports people who have not engaged in criminal acts within the State based solely on where they are from.

If you had an understanding of the laws of Ireland you would not be making rash statements about who in your ill informed opinions should matter more that the people who live in Ireland.

This one time I agree with you and
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When you dont understand the question please try asking why you dont understand the question.

Falling into petty insults because you realise that you have proved you own position to be fundementally flawed is not helping your case.

But it is clearly shows you being you.

What others have said is not my responsibility. So not sure what your point has to do with anything on this sub-thread

I’m just getting VAWG doesn’t happen, there are lots of wrongful convictions, abortion is evil and I know fuck all about toilets

Don't forget the whataboutery.

Who other than you claimed that?

I have clearly pointed out that women have rights which can be lost.

Others have clearly pointed out that women as a sex class no longer have shared rights.

True I could have gone on and on

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Dear Reader

This is in reply to low conviction rates for sex offending in a jury system democracy

How many men in Ireland have been sacked when they tell their boss they are going to be a parent?

And what legislation could he use in Ireland to sue his employer?

You should just admit you dont know if you dont know.

You have no idea of irish law.

Yes women in Ireland are still fired after her employer finds out.

I asked :

How many men in Ireland have been sacked when they tell their boss they are going to be a parent?

And what legislation could he use in Ireland to sue his employer?

Thank you for sharing your definition of thought policing.

Falling into petty insults because you realise that you have proved you own position to be fundementally flawed is not helping your case.

You have proven you dont understand Irish laws and are not willing to read the text which is provided.

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