Glinner Bullseye comment on X

[Thatcatsaflippingnightmare]

Always trying to explain Glinner to DH, today he showed me on X JD Vance defending murder of the woman by ICE. Glinner had replied something like 'bullseye', as in agreement. I tried to comprehend with "satire?" but he said no he's on Liz truss show these days. I said well he's always been about protecting women and children, he's not suddenly supporting femicide, but the post convinced DH otherwise. Any insights? I'm not on social media

Absolutely agree.

And also the fact that the ridiculous toilet rules now allow violent cis males to masquerade as masculine presenting AFAB people and actually gain access to our spaces to abuse us more easily - much more likely than any trans woman causing cis women an issue in a bathroom.

we need solidarity to fight against people like Vance using women’s complex rights issues to destroy our long fought for ability to operate with any freedom at all

Exactly this

Agree ⬆️ ranty forum or what.

I know! Women are under attack from cis men and non cis men. Non cis men also try to control women by removing their right to single sex spaces. I think the best thing is to ban all men from our spaces and enjoy female single sex spaces as per our rights. Then women would be confident that all people using female spaces were women and there would be no problem.

So you now believe men can be women because you’re worried men who say men can’t be women might do more damage than the men who say men can be women?

How bizarre.

It is slightly odd reason for surrendering women’s rights. I suspect by the use of AFAB and cis thst this person is not and has never been GC though.

It is really simple. Once you let some men in, you have to let them all in. There should be no men of any kind in women' single sex spaces.

No, I now believe that men who live as women deserve the right to that freedom and should be seen as our allies and partners in the much broader fight against the destruction of women’s rights unless they demonstrate otherwise by their behaviour. I believe that people who choose to live as non binary should be respected for that choice.

I know a lot of people on this thread disagree. And I understand why. I also held a GC opinion for a few years.

But I became aware that much of the discussion online on these issues around AFAB/AMAB and sex based rights was being funded directly by the Kremlin and by fascist actors in the US, and is part of a much bigger global process designed to destabilise and splinter female power, to break community solidarity and to reverse our existing rights.

I have watched how (former) friends who were once very left wing have been deeply radicalised through this issue and become tools of the right - online and and in real life

I realised that my attitudes towards trans women were hardening too, and that I too was being manipulated. I realised I had started dehumanising individuals in the way I was considering their rights and experiences.

i decided to step back and review my perspective about how I wanted people to live freely, in comfort and without restriction unless they show themselves an aggressor to women

i changed my views

there’s more nuance than have space for here eg I still believe it is right that medical records should include assignation at birth, but broadly on a socio political level I have shifted

i am only sharing this here for reference for others, not to get into a discussion about it. I have spent many years considering this stuff

Sure buddy. Sure you have. So what is the difference between a man “living as a woman” and a man I pot living as a woman? Why is one the ally of women and one not? They are all men. What do those men you call “living as women” bring to the table? If women allow these men to access female spaces, what benefits do women get in return? They lose single sex spaces but what do they gain?

Community and solidarity against a much bigger threat to women than trans people - fascism

it’s later than you think

Indeed.

No, I now believe that men who live as women deserve the right to that freedom

So you’ve changed your position and you now think men should be in women’s spaces, sport and prisons because otherwise you think fascism will win?

Sure….

And you somehow think you haven’t been radicalised out of fear to bend to men’s wishes? You are willing to compromise the rights of women and change your beliefs to aid “The Left”You are no different.

Although I maintain trans activism is fundamentally right wing. All about freedom of individual choice without government interference and allowing the free market to dictate terms.

It’s kind of the opposite. I was “turned” GC by what I saw online and the spiralling of the discourse. Also becoming a parent to girls around the same time probably played a part.

It took me a long time to realise what was happening, how my views were being manipulated by dark money, and course correct back to the liberal and inclusive position I held previously held as a younger woman.

So I'm still confused. So you’re saying some men are going to help women fight other men by accessing female spaces? But what if the non women men learn if your cunning plan and pretend to be women men? I mean, there’s no difference, they’re all men so is it going to be like the Traitors and we’ve all got to figure out who is a woman man and who is a man pretending to be a woman man?

Harassing a kid? Do you mean the recent court case where the harassing charges were dismissed? Judging from video footage the "kid" in question is a taller than average grown man who enjoys intimidating women.

So you used to think men should be in women’s spaces, sport and prisons.

Then you got worried about men being in women’s spaces, sport and prisons based on what you read online and concern over your daughters’ safety.

But now you’ve changed back to thinking men should be in women’s spaces, sport and prisons, regardless of your daughters’ safety, because you somehow have been led to believe that opposing that view is a view being pushed by “dark money”.

Again, how bizarre. You think holding the perfectly rational belief of men not being women is somehow being “pushed”. Are you generally weak in your other beliefs?

Also, do you know who has the dark money? Because I am perfectly happy to hold the belief that men aren’t women and be paid for it. Can someone send me some dark money? How is that different from light money?

This

The fact that you’re even making a joke about it shows you have no idea how bad the situation is.

Read some Carole Cadwalladr.

Sure.

This is so disappointing from Glinner.

I will if you read Helen Joyce. Deal?

The fact you’re willing to flip flop and let men into women’s spaces, and give up on that concern for your daughters, based on being worried about how you come across and not having any courage to hold an opinion is a complete joke, yes.

a parent to girls...

Correction - I incubated 2 offspring who were assigned female at birth, in time it may transpire that they are in fact males born in the wrong body, and who am I to argue with that. I am merely the vessel that produced them, it's not my fault I did a bad job, and made the wrong body for them.