Mail carry out investigation into Trans terror group Bash Back

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Important;

Trans mob's plot to smash up the offices of senior politicians - including the Prime Minister and Wes Streeting
A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office.

The gender warriors said: 'If you think we're done, you've got another thing coming.
'MP or PM, you've seen us once, we'll see you again.'

The group's conspiracy was uncovered by this newspaper after it urged members to form 'cells' and plot criminal damage offences against high-profile targets.

A list of other potential marks include the Free Speech Union (FSU) and feminist organisation Sex Matters.

Last night, we notified the Metropolitan Police and the parliamentary security services of our findings.

FSU founder Lord Young commissioned an independent security briefing about the group, which is calling for 'total transgender liberation'.

A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office

The report, obtained by The Mail on Sunday, suggests British intelligence is monitoring the trans activist cells....

In a pamphlet obtained by this newspaper, Bash Back claims to target 'organisations that promote transphobic rhetoric - from banning hormones and puberty blockers, to confining us to or defining us out of categories of woman and man, to promoting conversion therapy and facilitating hideous harassment campaigns'.

It says they 'should come to expect us', adding: 'All of our targets have blood on their hands. We refuse to let them wash it off in peace.'

Bash Back's first public attack was on Mr Streeting's Ilford North constituency office in July, when it painted 'child killer' and smashed windows months after puberty blockers were banned for children on the advice of medical experts and the Cass Review of gender identity services.

Since then, the group has formulated an action guide - seen by this newspaper - for sympathisers to carry out similar attacks.

The document details how to avoid police detection as they plot criminal damage and steal equipment while filming their actions.

A security briefing on the group - also seen by The Mail on Sunday - reveals it has gone to extensive lengths to hide its identity, including removing internal metadata from public documents and using ultra-secure email systems.

The security memo says: 'Given the first attack was on the office of a HM Gov minister, almost certainly the group responsible will be investigated by security services.'

Activists engaged in criminal activity could be among the near 3,000 profiles following Bash Back across social media platforms, the security document adds.

Maya Forstater, the chief executive of Sex Matters - also included in the list of offices that are potential targets - said: 'After years in which police forces rolled out the red carpet for trans lobby groups and harassed women's rights campaigners, it's no wonder that Bash Back seems to believe it can cause criminal damage with impunity.'

A government spokesman said: 'Threats, harassment, and vandalism are not only cowardly, they're criminal and we will pursue anyone who targets politicians and their staff in this way, with the full force of the law.

'The rhetoric from this group is dangerous and only seeks to distract from our work to improve the lives of trans people.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416739/Trans-mobs-plot-smash-offices-senior-politicians-including-Prime-Minister-Wes-Streeting.html

Many years after Trans groups started using political violence to silence women it seems the Police are actually investigating when male politician's property is under threat. Figures.

Supporting Violence and silencing women was always the main aim of trans stuff. The truth is coming out.

Mumsnet has been monitoring this group for a while.Previous threads
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5384285-trans-group-attack-wes-streetings-constituency-office

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5436532-trans-activists-vandalise-ehrc-who-want-labour-to-reject-supreme-court-ruling-guidelines-re-sex-biology

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5425523-welcome-to-a-new-era-of-trans-rage

Nothing they say is coherent

We never go out of our way to cause harm to any human being

presumably they just stick to the ones directly en route then? Wtf does that mean?! And yes, they are vigorously aiming to cause harm to women who need single sex spaces, tand who argue for them, hat's their raison d'etre.

and discourage and condemn actions that do so.”

Where?

Has anyone anywhere ever seen this group or any other gender activism say the behead/die in grease fire/kerb stomp/punch/ barbed wire wrapped baseball bats for punishing lesbians/ sword and machete photographs of men in women's toilets ready to attack resisters 'POV if you're a terf in my mentions' etc ever say that's not ok, not in their name, they don't support and won't associate with those who do it? Anywhere? Anyone?

Any peep from this group about trying to destroy accessibility for women who need it and women losing their jobs for not undressing with men/ not able to access rape crisis services because gender activists are dog in the manger about even permitting single sex resources to exist even after fully accessible and very nurturing special caring provision is fully available for all gender choices?

Are they saying it's ok to break and smash and do criminal damage to things to try and exert political pressure so long as they don't actually (go out of their way and) hit someone?

I swear the thinking is somewhere around that of an 8 year old with fairly major issues.

Edited, duplicate post for some reason.

Yeah. Never seen them condemning harm caused by other’s protests or reactions.

GB news on Bash Back saga with Amy Gallagher who calls out the hypocrisy of some Labour politicians:

https://nitter.net/OkayBiology/status/2005372510112817364

A town next to the Tyne?

They are trying to motte-and-bailey. It's Rule Ten in action.

You're not wrong of course.

I think it has been really hard for a lot of people to get their head around the idea that "rights" groups, or groups of people who they see as marginalised, can be on the wrong side of things.

This never seemed strange to me, but it took me a long time to realise there are a lot of people who actually think that any form of marginalisation means you and your group are in the right. They marginalised people cannot actually be violent or oppressive.

Even if we set aside the question of whether TIMs are really marginalised at all, I think history shows quite clearly that this kind of split of oppressors/marginalised is far too simplistic, and people often switch roles. But there are a lot of people who believe it, and also that institutions set up to help the marginalised, or things like protests, cannot be used for evil purposes.

Once the scales fall from people 's eyes it is a complete change of perspective but it seems like it takes a lot for that to happen sometimes. But even when I see people who realise something has gone wrong, they sometimes find it hard to think that a group set up for human rights purposes could be in the wrong.

I think the woolly head liberals have also forgotten that some 'groups' are marginalised for a reason, such as football hooligan's, their behaviour was considered unacceptable by the majority of people.

Those that have drunk the Kool-Aid thinks that marginalised means victimised, they've forgotten that it is also a means by which society's protect themselves for excessive, violent individuals/groups who's behaviours are not welcome by most people. When they decided to #BeKind, they also pulled down the barriers that have been erected to keep out the unacceptable, which is why we no longer know how to deal with those who's actions are not welcome by anyone.

We've shot ourselves well and truly in the foot with this batshit crazy ideology.

Many people only understand when things affect them personally, so I hope Back Bash focus their efforts on politicians. That will bring about change the quickest - not the change BB have in mind though.

Teen suicide, queerbashing, AIDS genocide, exclusion at borders, enslavement in prisons: the violence experienced by queers is multiform and evolving.

From the quotes posted above. I mean, what? What AIDS genocide? Christ knows how many millions of dollars were - rightly - poured into finding a cure, and World Aids Day started in, what, 1990? Enslavement in prisons? Exclusion at borders? Were they doing a Judge Kemp-style AI hallucination when they wrote that?

All of this, in absolute spades. I find it darkly fascinating that there are hierarchies of oppression embedded in certain areas of left-wing thinking and anyone declared (self or otherwise) as a victim of oppression can automatically do no wrong. Of course, anyone who has an issue with their behaviour is a nasty bigot/racist/fascist/[insert slur here]. It leads to some very dark corners of human behaviour, whether it’s grooming gangs or TRAs feeling empowered to commit acts of violence.

I am unconvinced that any of them were alive in the late sixties, when I became a member of the Gay Liberation Front because the way homosexuals were being treated was horrific.

I say this because they don't mention the murders....

these people don’t think past their next self induced orgasm. I’m amazed anyone listened to them, yet every institution and many influential individuals did.

i can’t make sense of it.

In American jails prisoners do jobs like making number plates (which have to be bought yearly as a road tax sort of system) for something stupid like $3 a day. I suspect that's what they are talking about when they say enslavement in prison

So yet another imported grievance from across the Atlantic.

There used to be a trans manifesto thing - demanding the immediate release of all trans convicts, all gender doctors to be trans and total access to any and all drugs. I think it was the Edinburgh trans liberation front or something equally reputable sounding who wrote it.

This sounds like that

Edinburgh Action for Trans Health.

https://www.tumblr.com/edinburghath/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto

The ATH Manifesto was even more batshit than the time that the NUS had that trans conference where the delegates decided to occupy a toilet.

There are various over the top trans manifesto type things around the latest one was the demands of the Trans Liberation Group inside Your Party.

https://transliberationgroup.org.uk/demands/

Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5442291-trans-liberation-group

They actually got some of their ideas adopted in the absolute circus of the YP conference. See the YP thread for more than you might want to know about that;

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2

But even if we overlook the idea that the UK is not America (much as continued references to “bathrooms” and “cops” by the TRA fraternity would have us believe otherwise 🙄), surely this applies to everyone? It’s not a specific persecution of trans inmates?

Ah, always good the revisit this. It’s hard to pick out my favourite demand…maybe the end to birth certificates? Or the “material reparations for historical injustices”? Or perhaps even the automatic right to free transition AND detransition surgery so no one has to “fear regret”.

It’s a smorgasbord of entitled toddler-esque fuckwittery.

I don't think they are likely to be proscribed. There is a high bar for that. Requires actually doing very dangerous stuff.

What we are talking about are lower level dangerous groups of activists that might resort to vandalism or violence similar to other religious, left/right political groups which are not proscribed.

They 100% should be on watch lists and be investigated by the security forces. In fact as the Mail report indicated after they did vandalism targeting politicians and government agencies they are being investigated same as they watch anarchist/fascist/religious groups that do the same kind of thing.

It is clear though the long history of this kind of harassment against women did not raise the same kind of concern.

What is very interesting is taking a look at the official list Signs of radicalisation- what to look for that might indicate someone is heading towards carrying out acts of extremism. They seem sort of familiar to me what do others think:

Signs and Vulnerabilities
There is no single route to radicalisation. However, there are certain behaviours you can watch out for that we often see when someone is being led down the path of extremism. These signs and vulnerabilities are not listed in any order of importance. Our experience shows that some of these behaviours and vulnerabilities can make a person more at risk of being exploited. Identifying them doesn't necessarily mean someone is being radicalised. There can be other explanations behind the behaviours you are seeing. If you are worried, then act early and reach out for help to discuss your concerns.

Being influenced or controlled by a group

An obsessive or angry desire for change or ‘something to be done’

Spending an increasing amount of time online and sharing extreme views on social media.

Personal crisis

Need for identity, meaning and belonging

Mental health issues

Looking to blame others

Desire for status, need to dominate

You can find out more and report people who show such dangerous signs here:

https://actearly.uk/spot-the-signs-of-radicalisation/what-to-look-for/

Sex Matters' recent letter to Kier Starmer about his government's failure to enforce sex discrimination protections for women following the Supreme Court's judgment and the need to revoke the Civil Service Gender Model mentions Bash Back:

The question of whether services for women are for women or for women plus men with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment, is simple, and the Supreme Court has already answered it.

The answer is not with popular with groups such as Trans Bash Back which responded with a show of force, attacking a feminist conference, the Equality and Human Rights Commission's offices and Wes Streeting MP's constituency office. We call on you to stand up to groups that seek to undermine the Equality Act.

https://nitter.net/SexMattersOrg/status/2005621986425508255