Mail carry out investigation into Trans terror group Bash Back

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Important;

Trans mob's plot to smash up the offices of senior politicians - including the Prime Minister and Wes Streeting
A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office.

The gender warriors said: 'If you think we're done, you've got another thing coming.
'MP or PM, you've seen us once, we'll see you again.'

The group's conspiracy was uncovered by this newspaper after it urged members to form 'cells' and plot criminal damage offences against high-profile targets.

A list of other potential marks include the Free Speech Union (FSU) and feminist organisation Sex Matters.

Last night, we notified the Metropolitan Police and the parliamentary security services of our findings.

FSU founder Lord Young commissioned an independent security briefing about the group, which is calling for 'total transgender liberation'.

A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office

The report, obtained by The Mail on Sunday, suggests British intelligence is monitoring the trans activist cells....

In a pamphlet obtained by this newspaper, Bash Back claims to target 'organisations that promote transphobic rhetoric - from banning hormones and puberty blockers, to confining us to or defining us out of categories of woman and man, to promoting conversion therapy and facilitating hideous harassment campaigns'.

It says they 'should come to expect us', adding: 'All of our targets have blood on their hands. We refuse to let them wash it off in peace.'

Bash Back's first public attack was on Mr Streeting's Ilford North constituency office in July, when it painted 'child killer' and smashed windows months after puberty blockers were banned for children on the advice of medical experts and the Cass Review of gender identity services.

Since then, the group has formulated an action guide - seen by this newspaper - for sympathisers to carry out similar attacks.

The document details how to avoid police detection as they plot criminal damage and steal equipment while filming their actions.

A security briefing on the group - also seen by The Mail on Sunday - reveals it has gone to extensive lengths to hide its identity, including removing internal metadata from public documents and using ultra-secure email systems.

The security memo says: 'Given the first attack was on the office of a HM Gov minister, almost certainly the group responsible will be investigated by security services.'

Activists engaged in criminal activity could be among the near 3,000 profiles following Bash Back across social media platforms, the security document adds.

Maya Forstater, the chief executive of Sex Matters - also included in the list of offices that are potential targets - said: 'After years in which police forces rolled out the red carpet for trans lobby groups and harassed women's rights campaigners, it's no wonder that Bash Back seems to believe it can cause criminal damage with impunity.'

A government spokesman said: 'Threats, harassment, and vandalism are not only cowardly, they're criminal and we will pursue anyone who targets politicians and their staff in this way, with the full force of the law.

'The rhetoric from this group is dangerous and only seeks to distract from our work to improve the lives of trans people.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416739/Trans-mobs-plot-smash-offices-senior-politicians-including-Prime-Minister-Wes-Streeting.html

Many years after Trans groups started using political violence to silence women it seems the Police are actually investigating when male politician's property is under threat. Figures.

Supporting Violence and silencing women was always the main aim of trans stuff. The truth is coming out.

Mumsnet has been monitoring this group for a while.Previous threads
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5384285-trans-group-attack-wes-streetings-constituency-office

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5436532-trans-activists-vandalise-ehrc-who-want-labour-to-reject-supreme-court-ruling-guidelines-re-sex-biology

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5425523-welcome-to-a-new-era-of-trans-rage

I don’t think I have directly donated to the FSU and wouldn’t really care if I was on the list, but obviously that isn’t the case for many others on the list, and it needs to be robustly dealt with pour encourager les autres.

I totally get that many absolutely do not want their name 'out there', which is why the anonymous box exists to be ticked in the first place. I'm not one of them and my comments were about me - why did I feel an immediate sense of panic? I'll give my money to whomever I damn well please! And be public about it if I so choose. Anyway, FSU say some names appear to be made up.

FSU say the police have been notified and also the National Cyber Security Centre, which is part of GCHQ. I'm not sure I'd want to mess with GCHQ. But the muppets probably think those letters stand for Gender Critical Head Quarters.

FSU's legal team have been firing off take-down notices and their lawyers are going to be way more competent and on the ball than anyone BB can come up with.

Targeting people for supporting freedom is such a weird thing to do. What are their aims? “Let’s stamp out “wrong donation”, lads, it’ll bring our goal of “capital punishment for wrong think” closer?

I have been around FWS for years and I have tried very hard to be sympathetic to people with gender distress. But this lot make it very are to deny what I have, actually, always seen - a bunch of personalitu disordered dysfunctional dickheads.

A grown up needs to step in. Anyone know where to find one of them?

Bash Back's behaviour seems oddly counter-productive. Actions like this will only alienate the public. In fact, I do wonder sometimes if a lot of so-called trans activists are agents provocateurs or fifth columnists, because their behaviour (violence, intimidation, threats and so on) seems designed to turn people against their cause.

Apart from alienating the public, they have quite clearly committed a criminal offence which should, if the police do their job properly, lead to them being publicly identified and prosecuted. I can't imagine they think this is a good outcome, but perhaps I'm wrong.

A final thought: the Canary has reported on this without any acknowledgement that a criminal offence has been committed or that hacking people's private data is morally wrong. It doesn't seem to realise that it too (if I've understood the law correctly) is breaking the law by publishing the names. It goes to show that these people are both very stupid and quite unfettered by any kind of moral understanding.

I'm not sure I'd want to mess with GCHQ. But the muppets probably think those letters stand for Gender Critical Head Quarters.

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“Bash Back's behaviour seems oddly counter-productive. Actions like this will only alienate the public.”

It absolutely is bonkers. Unless you think of it as them playing to their supportive audience only. Perhaps they think their egregious acts fire up peaceful action to follow through. Added to that, these people are likely fulfilling their revolutionist dreams. They can say they were like those throwing the first brick / stone. Whatever.

It also puts, in their mind and their supporters, their plight as one of extreme righteousness. These actions are warranted because of the genocide rhetoric used.

I really don’t think that their audience is the general public.

This is baffling

Did bash back really think this was a good idea and will convince people that they are 'on the right side of history'.

Hopefully this will make the police sit up and take notice, I'm fairly certain it will increase the Mails interest in this group.

But all these 'resistance' groups use tactics that seem counter productive, don't they? I'm thinking of Just Stop Oil causing traffic chaos, a militant vegan group in my town breaking butchers' windows, that absolute scumbag Palestine protestor nearly breaking a police woman's back. BB are no different.

Edited to add: I also think they like the image of themselves as fiery young turks, fighting the good fight, smashing the system.

Being targetted by TRAs? I've seen a couple discussing trying to track down a man who has made 3 separate donations. How successful they will be I don't know. But as we are well aware, some TRAs are absolutely unhinged and obsessive.

They don't see it as freedom, though. They see it as far right bigotry.

came here to post a ss of their Bluesky post with Martin Freeman (a fairly common name i would imagine?)

There must be loads of Martin Freemans. I don't know if the Martin Freeman who donated to FSU is THE Martin Freeman, but either way, he's probably being harassed by trans activists right now, and his agent is probably taking calls from journalists wanting to know if he donated to the FSU. (Though I haven't seen any papers report on the breach yet - are they covering it?)

Freeman seems to be generally well-liked, so again, I can't see that this does their cause any good.

That's the thing - many combinations of first and last names are common.

The NFL programme Big Game Night on Channel 5 last Sunday had ordinary people on it who had the same names as some of the guests, including Joe Marler - that isn't even a common surname.

Completely agree. Anyone with any sense knows that you catch flies with honey.
They would do far better bringing some of the nice gentle wouldn't hurt a fly people that everyone seems to know to the fore, to sadly explain how hard their lives were, with a polite and humble request for concessions. The public responds well to an underdog.
I think this speaks far less of a strategy to further a cause, and far more of out of control young men, full of rage and seeking an outlet.

Transactivism has got this far by adopting these far right tactics of public threats - naming and shaming used by all totalitarian regimes to censor and compel citizens to obey their demands.
Hopefully BB will soon reap the consequences of their FAFO - unless of course this government decides to intervene as this is yet another one of the laws of the land they're not keen on?

That is a good point, although the TRAs are in for a disappointment if they are expecting a widespread condemnation of people who've dared donate to a fundraiser (I suspect they're expecting it to be like when a far right group had their membership list exposed a number of years ago).

Still, it's a salient reminder to crack out my pseudonym for these things.

Apart from alienating the public, they have quite clearly committed a criminal offence which should, if the police do their job properly, lead to them being publicly identified and prosecuted.

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That’s the thing. These people don’t care whether they are right, they only care about the message.

Also I imagine they might like to leverage MF into some sort of public denial statement which gets them publicity.

A public denial statement, or a 'Free speech? Hell yeah!' statement?

It absolutely is bonkers. Unless you think of it as them playing to their supportive audience only.

I think they genuinely see themselves as freedom fighters, it ties into the whole idea of people being good or bad, and not only demonstrating that you're one of the good guys but that you're brave enough to take a stand against "evil". Of course, that's all horribly simplistic but it's how thinking seems to go these days in progressive circles. That and seeing anything you don't like as assault/harm, which gives a justification for 'fighting back', 'fighting for your rights', 'surviving genocide' etc. etc.

There's also an element, I believe, of this being something of a fantasy, like the blurring of video games and real life. Which is why attracting the attention of the security services - who take absolutely no shit - is going to come as a horrible shock to them when the seriousness of what they've done and the weight of the law applies to them in ways they'd never imagined, and it becomes apparent that MI5/GCHQ/a prosecution barrister could not give a tuppeny fuck for their notions of moral purity, 'correct think' and being on the right side of history.

They're assuming everyone will be on their side in condemning those who've donated. I should imagine the vast majority of people will think donating to an organisation defending freedom of speech is a good thing.

Shades of the Hogwarts Legacy boycott again!

They think the actual Martin Freeman might have been radicalised by his wife and so it would make sense for him to be the donor:

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64187656/

Who would have guessed that at the heart of going after Freeman is hatred of a woman?

I'm sure I remember Martin Freeman saying something allied with gender ideology.

But I've searched on here, and can't find anything. So maybe it's something else.

Maybe he disagreed with his ex-wife over something and I added two and two and made five.

They separated years ago, though. So it seems unlikely.