Latest Girlguiding email this evening

[clementina25]

I have just received a new email from Girlguiding. They are planning on setting up a task force - 'Today, we're launching a taskforce to explore new opportunities for trans girls, trans young women and trans women. You can help us by sharing your ideas and/or expressing an interest in contributing to our taskforce. '
I'm thinking that it's really important that sex realists are included on this task force as I think that there will be pressure from the Trans handmaidens to change Girlguiding to a mixed sex organisation. Is there anyone else who has received this email and would be keen to collaborate?

I just filled in the survey, I had an idea I shared with them 😁

Posters might like to ask GG why they're openly undermining safeguarding guidelines (KCSIE).
The 2025 guidelines for schools post Cass cautions about socially transitioning children, advising against automatic affirmation and acknowledges that this cohort of children are often highly vulnerable with complex mental health challenges?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68add931969253904d155860/Keeping_children_safe_in_education_from_1_September_2025.pdf

(paras 204 onwards).

Seems a bit odd for the GG to be so wrapped up in trans ideology and men's demands that they ignore the needs of their target group

Ha I had literally submitted exactly that in the survey monkey

Makes sense, though, since they consider transboys to be boys, thus outside the remit of GG?

FFS. Anyone in Edinburgh might like to keep an eye on this: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AFPhZk8rY/

OMG the advice for Rainbows/Brownies etc has given me the absolute rage!! So much "we're so sad the meanies made us not be kiiiind to boys" crap! argh!!
What would all those fierce pioneering women in lanyards and long skirts have thought of it?!

Thank you. I am horrified that they have published this guidance for all age groups about being born in the wrong body.

I feel so let down that they are pushing this toxic ideology on girls when they are supposed to exist for the benefit and empowerment of girls.

If they had been telling me when I was a young member that people can be born in the wrong body and that kind people accept that, I would not have felt I had any option but to go along with it. Because to question or reject it would make you an unkind, uncaring person who was breaking the Guide promise and would be kicked out.

This abusive conduct is such a grotesque betrayal of the movement's values.

Have you read the FAQs?

"How can I know if there is a young trans member in my unit?

We don’t ask people their biological sex when they join Girlguiding and it’s not possible to know if someone is trans by looking at them. The only way to know, is if they choose to share their gender identity with you. There won’t be any immediate changes for current young members but we’ll share more information soon. In the meantime, please continue to support all our young members, as you always have done."

Completed the survey suggesting they stick to their aims of providing girls with a variety of activities and refrain from wasting resources on boys and men.

Surely they cannot be allowed to present he issue to young kids in this way

That was a very appropriate typo!

They don't ask biological sex when guiding is a single sex organisation?
Ridiculous.

The language used is very manipulative. There must be some Rangers feeling relief that they will be surrounded only by biological girls and that they nolonger have to play slongvwith the tans girls are girls line. (Former Brownie and Guide, mother of former Brownie)

They've come right out and admitted that their official safeguarding policy is non-existent.

It would be outrageous enough if they accepted boys who think they are girls, but made full provision for the reality when it comes to all the circumstances where it could present a real risk and greatly added supervision, such as toilets, changing, residentials and many more; but they openly concede that safeguarding is something they pay no regard to?

Surely they've written their own death warrant, if they don't make a very quick and decisive apology and about-turn - ideally with a whole new group of trustees who do understand the obvious basic nature of the charity.

Absolutely this.

I'm going to register for the members zoom call on Monday evening. But you have to submit a question. I wonder if they might not grant me access if I submit a question regarding their charitable purposes!!!

I can’t make a call on Monday but maybe I’ll just register and submit a question to put the pressure on. I’d imagine they’ll shit themselves a bit if they think loads of us baddies that want everyone to be sad, are going to show up when they are trying to give a sympathetic ‘sorry the baddies made us do it’ vibe.

Definitely need to ask questions about the guidelines about social transition as mentioned above, why they think they should teach children in a way no longer recommended in schools.

I've just been thinking: if they don't even ask about biological sex when children want to join (granted, in the 'old days', before all of the ideology and the gaslighting, everybody would have known perfectly well that it was for girls only and it wouldn't have been any issue), do they ask for proof of age?

And if they do ever view any documents that show somebody's true age, what would they do if that person tearfully told them about the nasty bigots who insist on 'mis-ageing' them on official documents and refusing to accept that their own age identity doesn't match their biological age, but they know that they're an organisation that respects people's dignity when they identify differently from their biology? I mean, it's just a small extension of their whole 'be kind' mantra, isn't it?

Can they honestly say that, if a 55yo man told them that his identity was that of 13yo girl, and as such, he really wanted to join GG and become one of the girls, they would reject him? And if they would, doesn't their whole 'we bend over backwards to welcome and accept boys who are girls' ethos rapidly start to crumble? Do they want to be kind and non-bigoted or not, eh?

After what happened on the TACs call, I expect at the very least that the chat will be locked. I also doubt that many people will get the answers they want.

I would imagine that there will be people who record the call, so it will be interesting to see if any of it makes it onto SM afterwards.

Yes I suspect that interaction will be limited. I'm busy writing my question at the moment, although it is less a question and more a comment. But I'm going to also write to the Board, the chief executive and the press!! I'm fired up now, thanks to the input from fellow mumsnetters above!!

Tut tut, have you not tuned in to any of HW's recent diatribes? Age is not an identity, only gender is an identity. Do keep up. /s

A couple of banners for the protest tomorrow.
Telling girls this is a way to get a badge, abd disagreeing makes them a transphobe.
It's absolutely disgusting, they should be nowhere near young girls.

The first guide law is about being honest and trustworthy. Pretending that boys can be girls is neither. Girlguiding needs to have some complaints about this demo. If these people are guide leaders they need reporting to Girlguiding for breaking the new policy and bringing Girlguiding into disrepute.

I can do that:

Scouts.

Is there a girlguiding badge for extreme fawning?

Air Cadets, Sea Cadets, St John’s, Boys Brigade… (I think there is Police Cadets too now)