Latest Girlguiding email this evening

[clementina25]

I have just received a new email from Girlguiding. They are planning on setting up a task force - 'Today, we're launching a taskforce to explore new opportunities for trans girls, trans young women and trans women. You can help us by sharing your ideas and/or expressing an interest in contributing to our taskforce. '
I'm thinking that it's really important that sex realists are included on this task force as I think that there will be pressure from the Trans handmaidens to change Girlguiding to a mixed sex organisation. Is there anyone else who has received this email and would be keen to collaborate?

Here's a bright idea for Girl Guides HQ who insist on driving the organisation into the ground: FOATFOSM.

Hopefully sane women will rip out the grip of these desperate, dick-pandering ninnies.

A complaint to the Charity Commission can be made directly via an online form accessed through a link on this page:

https://forms.charitycommission.gov.uk/Raising-Concerns/

I think the correct charity name is The Guide Association and its number is 306016.

I wonder who on the Board has trans identifying son (s) as it's the only possible reason I can think of to be so hell bent on insisting GG pander to this nonsense

Ah no, I’m not a leader, that’ll be it! I’ll stand down with my accusations 😆

oops edited as that was meant to be a reply to @LostMySocks

The message is very clear to girls: 'you're not enough'.

But then this group of activists see the whole point of running girls/women's resources as to get this particular group of men into them and make the organisation primarily serve the political agenda. And for everything for girls/women including funding, be dedicated to serving men.

We can only hope the SCJ holds and these people leave women and girls' resources when they find they can no longer use them, and go and carry out their agenda separately.

Their silence on transboys is deafening! A group of girls and young women who struggle to fit in? Who don't feel an affinity with the gender roles so heavily promoted by our culture but who lack the role models/ confidence to own their non compliance? Who perhaps are also dealing with traumas or neuro diversity?

Wouldn't joining a group of other girls be beneficial? A group which aims to include all girls and to focus on all the things a girl can do?

Don't most people understand that girls and women tend to have many shared experiences and things in common, even if they come from different cultures or have different personalities and interests?

All those things that a true believer in genderism simply cannot acknowledge. And so a significant minority of vulnerable girls is excluded.

I got the email today. Replied with my task force idea of keeping girls spaces for girls.

I’ve had the email today. Very disappointed with the one line Christmas message tacked on at the end - they’re more interested in trans identifying boys than wishing their girls a merry Christmas.

I've just had the email and felt very depressed and like I should do something so came onto here to see what everyone was thinking. Very pleased there's a thread. I will digest.

Their silence on transboys is deafening!

Sure is! They start off the email about update on "young trans members" and the very next paragraph, "trans girls, trans young women, trans women"!

Yes everyone, the males might all be very sad, and that's what we, at Girlguiding, really give a shit about.

I've already told them they need to keep obeying the law, that Girlguiding of all places should respect the rights of girls and women, especially when they say no, and if they think they can try and get around this many many families will be removing their daughters.

Who knows if GG will survive that? Probably not, but that's TRAs in a nutshell really. Keep attacking those who say no until we self exclude or leave and then eventually it all closes down and women and girls are left with nothing. Very much a theme of "If I can't have you, no one can"

I got the email today. I completed the survey saying that I had "lived experience" as my daughter has been subjected to trans ideology including harmful gender stereotypes. My taskforce idea was that they should focus on supporting and being a safe space for (biological) girls.

Woah, have people read the guidance that they have offered to volunteers on how to speak to young people about the change? It’s appalling and suggests talking to children as young as rainbow age as if the gender religion is fact:

*”Sometimes, how we look on the outside and how we feel on the inside match. But sometimes they don’t and that’s okay! When someone identifies as a different gender inside than what their body shows outside, that’s called being transgender.

In Girlguiding, we have rules, just like in our Rainbow promise. The people who make the rules for Girlguiding have said that now only people born as girls can join us. So even if someone identifies as a girl inside, they can’t join right now.
We know this might feel sad or confusing. We want to let you know that for now nothing will change. We’ll keep being kind and caring, just like our Rainbow promise says.”*

Im wondering what the best way to address this is. I plan to send an email to our group leaders saying I do not give permission for anyone to speak to my DD in this way. Can send an email to their task force. But what else? Surely they cannot be allowed to present he issue to young kids in this way, even schools are more balanced now aren’t they?

The full page:

https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/updates-for-our-members/practical-support-following-changes-to-our-equality-and-diversity-policy/?utm_campaign=1865100_EDI%20update%20email%20to%20parents%20and%20carers%2012%20December%202025&utm_medium=email&utm_source=dotdigitalemails

What the actual fuck??? 😲😲😲

Indeed.

They need to re write the Brownie/Guide promise and ensure it incorporates the required loyalty to this compelled political belief.

Children are entitled to protection from adults using them like this in their personal agendas.

There is apparently an all members webinar/call on Monday. Ive not had the link to register yet but if I do I will.

I have replied saying I have lived experience of being female, experiencing sexism and being harassed since my breasts developed. How much a single sex safe spaces meant to me as a young adult. My idea well a totally physically separate space for young men who believe themselves to be trans and run by a separate organisation than GIRLguiding. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Surely this should be Girl Guides focus. I worry for the girls who aren't comfortable with being girls. If they could be coaxed to join a single sex girls' group that helps give girls the confidence to realise being a girl doesn't confine them to a box it should help them feel less marginalised.

That is reprehensible. I don't know what we can do about this? Schools have been told they're not allowed to tell children that people are born in the wrong body, so why on earth should an informal educational charity be allowed to?

The guidance for talking to Rangers (14-18) says:

"Right now, this decision doesn’t change anything for our current young members like you, but it does mean that trans girls who hoped to join Girlguiding in the future won’t be able to, and that feels really sad.

We understand this might feel upsetting or unfair. It’s okay to feel angry, confused, or disappointed, and it’s okay to ask questions. We’re here to listen and talk about how you feel. Even though these rules limit who can join right now, they don’t change what Girlguiding stands for.

Girlguiding cares about fairness, kindness, and inclusion and we know you do too. This decision doesn’t mean we don’t support trans people. We still want to be allies and show kindness, and we’re working on what that looks like moving forward."

Nowhere on that page is it acknowledged that any members may welcome this decision. This is awful.

I've just replied to the email and the survey. In the email to say that I am delighted they are upholding the law and maintaining spaces for girls only. Then in the survey used the option to share an idea to suggest they stop any focus on boys at all.

I seriously wonder if that isn't grounds for a safeguarding referral and a letter for the Charity Commission. Children have a right to protection from adults using them in their own political agendas.

This was my thought.
If it's a group for confused boys only: they won't want to go as it's not validating.
If it's a group for girls whose leaders have told them to be kind, plus confused boys, it will be discriminating against boys who know they are boys.
And if it's a totally mixed sex group they will just have to re form as Guiding with a new set of charitable objectives.

The survey is very short and has a box for free text contributions - I would encourage as many of you as possible to fill it in.

How are Rainbows supposed to know what "gender" and "identify" mean?

Today, we're launching a taskforce to explore new opportunities for trans girls, trans young women and trans women
As I understand it Guides and Rangers only go up to age 18. That's girls and young women.
Who are these transwomen they are so keen to give 'opportunities' to? That's leaders, isn't it. Have they even heard of safeguarding?

Wtf is this misogynistic crusade? Why can’t girls be nurtured and cared about? I applaud those of you who challenge this.