Latest Girlguiding email this evening

[clementina25]

I have just received a new email from Girlguiding. They are planning on setting up a task force - 'Today, we're launching a taskforce to explore new opportunities for trans girls, trans young women and trans women. You can help us by sharing your ideas and/or expressing an interest in contributing to our taskforce. '
I'm thinking that it's really important that sex realists are included on this task force as I think that there will be pressure from the Trans handmaidens to change Girlguiding to a mixed sex organisation. Is there anyone else who has received this email and would be keen to collaborate?

Is this the same guy that has been referred to above at the national meet up? Is there just the one?

This is what I find truly difficult to comprehend. But then I've always been outspoken and have never shied away from speaking and confronting these sorts of things head on.

I am just left imagining that other things matter more to people than truth and integrity. I've concluded that this is probably to do with wanting to feel liked and accepted socially -and this being the most important thing.

I guess there will be fathers who would like to offer help and support where appropriate and practical.

There's no data because the online registration system only asked for gender (if I remember rightly) and not sex + gender. Not sure if that will change now to be clearer.

In roughly 20 years of trainings and events, I've encountered one male volunteer at a training whose role was as a (niche) adventurous sports advisor and worked with Scouting too. His experience was valuable and not easily avaliable.

Ultimately, as long as it's transparent, members and their families can make an informed choice. The reality is that male volunteers tend to be spouses of female leaders who help frequently enough to be registered and often have useful experience that enhances what Guiding can offer. They can not be "Leaders" in charge of a unit and with the full training. They can be "Assistants" and not in sole responsibility of young members (not that a Leader should be alone with members either)

The problem with Guiding's approach on "transgirls/ women" in recent years is that they have been anything but transparent both at a level of who's in an individual unit, and HQ's data collection across the organisation.

Be great if GC guides got in touch with them

What!

If that is the same person (guns, basque and period guy) then please report them to prevent or something.

I think there’s an online anonymous form where you can report any concern.

Seriously that guys a walking red flag and he needs to be on a watch list.

Slightly extreme but you never know… better safe than sorry. There are some right weirdos out there and he sounds like one of them.

https://act.campaign.gov.uk

@OpheliaWitchoftheWoods

I think they kicked him out eventually didn’t they?

No idea, first I am hearing about this. Completely insane

Looking at the information you posted @MyAmpleSheep women with daughters in Guiding should complain to the Charity Commission. The same for anyone who has donated to them.

There was comment on one of the subreddits (yes that one) where the poster was indignant about how she (a trans identified female) volunteered at the organisation before she transitioned and that had turned out to be so intolerant and how she regretted her volunteer work.

There seems to be zero awareness that by the rules of trans logic she was in fact a man disguising herself as woman volunteering to an organisation that gave her access to young girls.

That's obviously a bonkers view. No one thinks that she was then somehow a man and shouldn't have been involved with the group pretending to be woman. No one batted an eye about here being involved not because she hadn't yet realised she was a man (if that was the case), but because she was then a woman, is now a woman and should still be rightly welcomed by the group even today.

It's a pure case of how GI simply removes all sex based rights. It's is not that GI replaces sex, it's that it makes the legal machinery to ensure separation incoherent.

Well, here's one trans identifying man who is keen to support GATE.

Melissa Poulton, who stood for the Greens and was deselected after unsavoury Pinterest media was uncovered.

Its not clear Melissa has any connection to the Guides, to be clear.

Poulton.

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2024/07/17/melissa-poulton-matthew-viner/

Paul Levine from Translucent was just on LBC talking shite (this is just how gay people used to be treated, the Supreme Court has brought the opposite of clarity blah blah). It never fails to infuriate me how little empathy these men have for why women and girls might want a single sex spaces.

Thankfully there was a wonderful caller called Helen (not that one 😄) on afterwards who made that case very well.

Following the 'resources' section of Guiders Against Trans Exclusion brings up a bunch of template letters. I clicked on the first, the one to MPs. Quite unbelievable. Also brings up the TRA trope of non trans identified girls being accosted for looking like boys.

https://www.guidersagainsttransexclusion.co.uk/pages/resources

It goes onto to say there are an estimated 1590 children affected. Whilst confirming that the guides don't actually record that info.

And links to a guesstimate by mimmymum who immediately contradicts it by saying 'Trans children and teens are far less likely to take part in gendered activities' anyway.

Reading that template letter imagining it coming from the person in that photo, or Monica Sully, is a bit of an eye opener. Should anyone need one at this stage.

The man from Translucent also batted away any safeguarding concerns regarding boys sharing sleeping accomodation with girls because this is all based on fear apparently, not evidence.

It sounds like GG are seeking to run something akin to don't ask, don't tell which is how the US military allowed gay people to join when there was a prohibition in place.

They operate in plain sight don't they?

Few of them them are parents and just see children as tools to be used to achieve their demands. It's quite repellant to watch.

1590 children. Be good to see that disaggregated by sex. Or even 'gender identity'.

The guns one left a few years ago, so unless he's quietly rejoined (and avoided being recognised) the sanitary towels one is someone else.

Paul Levine said he became a TRA with Translucent because of his adult trans "daughter". So of course the rights of all female children to be able to meet without boys present should be swept aside.

God really! Some were reported for hate crime for raising a flag!

Outrageous.

Thats why I posted that link. It’s entirely anonymous. It’s designed for something which could be wrong, or trivial. It’s just to raise a red flag and let someone unbiased and qualified with more insight to have a little look. I think it’s great that we have that.

That one is more ‘risk of violence based’. Is there a national anonymous one for safeguarding against sexual risk and predators? There should be. I think that could be really important especially in light of organisational coverups, and even institutional with the police force in the grooming scandal.