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"All star charity concert for trans rights"

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FuriousAndFrustrated · 28/11/2025 15:15

Spotted on the Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/nov/28/sugababes-sophie-ellis-bextor-wolf-alice-and-more-to-play-all-star-charity-concert-for-trans-rights

Raising money for the kimono-clad fox-killer's "Good" Law Project.

Definitely one to avoid!

Sugababes, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Wolf Alice and more to play all-star charity concert for trans rights

Organised by Olly Alexander and the Mighty Hoopla festival to ‘fight back against the politics of fear and exclusion’, Trans Mission will take place at Wembley Arena in March

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/nov/28/sugababes-sophie-ellis-bextor-wolf-alice-and-more-to-play-all-star-charity-concert-for-trans-rights

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RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 19:41

Anyone rich enough, privileged enough and pretentious enough to afford to go, should automatically be added to the mansion tax list.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/11/2025 19:49

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 19:38

Epic.

Why stop at half measures? There should be a cis privilege tax and all the performers should not only perform for nothing but they should pay the trans people for attending.

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 19:51

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/11/2025 19:49

Why stop at half measures? There should be a cis privilege tax and all the performers should not only perform for nothing but they should pay the trans people for attending.

Sounds fair.

What happens if everyone identifies as trans?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/11/2025 20:17

We get Layla Moran MP to adjudicate. She can see into people's souls, after all.

"All star charity concert for trans rights"
plantcomplex · 29/11/2025 20:59

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/11/2025 20:17

We get Layla Moran MP to adjudicate. She can see into people's souls, after all.

Stock really nailed it when she said these people are morons.

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 21:40

Can we add Josh Widdicombe to the bill to complete the middle class wanker feel please?

SidewaysOtter · 29/11/2025 22:36

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 21:40

Can we add Josh Widdicombe to the bill to complete the middle class wanker feel please?

Maybe Rosie Jones could do a turn about her "mad angry cry" when feminists had lunch together.

Lalgarh · 29/11/2025 22:41

No Nish Kumar?

SabrinaThwaite · 30/11/2025 00:33

FKAT · 29/11/2025 10:53

This is quite a boring post but I work in live music (albeit a very different sector) and am puzzled by the economics of it. I'm struggling to understand how they will break even never mind raise money for charity.

Most charity concerts generate their revenue from broadcast sales and building a wider fundraising campaign around that so you aren't making money from the concert goers but the people watching at home. I can't see how this will get a very big fee for streaming/broadcast rights. All those artists will be doing the festival circuit and touring - there's nothing exclusive or exciting about the line-up - people can see them very easily. They will have to create specific merch - and who will be paying £30 for a tshirt for a one-off gig with a lot of random artists who have very different audiences?

Even assuming that they sell out every seat in the arena at around £100 a ticket, that's £1.25M. Even if artists work for free I simply cannot see the costs of putting on that concert at sub £1m - Wembley hire costs, security, insurance, venue staffing, technical and production costs, organisation, artist travel and expenses, publicity and marketing and other fees. It's a complex gig - every artist will need different lighting, logistics, sound set up which adds cost to prep and rehearsal time. Wembley will make a nice packet out of all those £10 pints and pre-concert meals and as a north Londoner I approve of that.

Of course, after Manchester Pride going bankrupt and the general murky arrangements of GLP I am completely unsurprised that the financial organisation may not be the most robust. It may be, who knows, maybe they'll get the BFI (taxpayers) to stump up £1M to make a concert film like they did with Kneecap.

I’m thinking less Wembley and more a muddy field in Lincolnshire, with the ‘artistes’ set up on some manky flat bed trucks that smell of old wet cabbages.

Stopbringingmicehome · 30/11/2025 00:51

BlueEyedBogWitch · 29/11/2025 04:09

Gutted to see Wolf Alice on there. I’m off to see them next week and I’m a bit put off now.

Get some stickers from Let Women Speak. They're removable so don't mark.

fromorbit · 30/11/2025 06:48

TAs complaining that sensible people have noted the concert and are commentating on it. Note we have a great thread laughing at the concert, but we are not trying to ban it.

Jill Foster

No one is banning the concert. No one is throwing urine at the concert. No one will be standing outside the concert spitting invective at concert-goers. Do you understand the difference?
https://nitter.net/JournalistJill/status/1994814936607068513

WarriorN · 30/11/2025 08:13

The ratio

"All star charity concert for trans rights"
WarriorN · 30/11/2025 08:20

Watching with interest the numbers of performers who suddenly have Drs orders to rest their voice

#covidisstillhandy

nicepotoftea · 30/11/2025 08:33

FKAT · 29/11/2025 10:53

This is quite a boring post but I work in live music (albeit a very different sector) and am puzzled by the economics of it. I'm struggling to understand how they will break even never mind raise money for charity.

Most charity concerts generate their revenue from broadcast sales and building a wider fundraising campaign around that so you aren't making money from the concert goers but the people watching at home. I can't see how this will get a very big fee for streaming/broadcast rights. All those artists will be doing the festival circuit and touring - there's nothing exclusive or exciting about the line-up - people can see them very easily. They will have to create specific merch - and who will be paying £30 for a tshirt for a one-off gig with a lot of random artists who have very different audiences?

Even assuming that they sell out every seat in the arena at around £100 a ticket, that's £1.25M. Even if artists work for free I simply cannot see the costs of putting on that concert at sub £1m - Wembley hire costs, security, insurance, venue staffing, technical and production costs, organisation, artist travel and expenses, publicity and marketing and other fees. It's a complex gig - every artist will need different lighting, logistics, sound set up which adds cost to prep and rehearsal time. Wembley will make a nice packet out of all those £10 pints and pre-concert meals and as a north Londoner I approve of that.

Of course, after Manchester Pride going bankrupt and the general murky arrangements of GLP I am completely unsurprised that the financial organisation may not be the most robust. It may be, who knows, maybe they'll get the BFI (taxpayers) to stump up £1M to make a concert film like they did with Kneecap.

It is a very interesting post! I thought artists could only make money by touring these days, so how does anyone make any money out of performing at Wembley Arena? Is the difference economies of scale because they will be touring many venues over many months?

Also, going back to this particular concert, presumably they can broadcast it on Youtube? But how expensive is it to film and broadcast a concert? (I have no idea how many people would have to watch to generate reasonable income).

TWETMIRF · 30/11/2025 09:35

TwistedWonder · 28/11/2025 21:02

Not quite sure the rush for tickets will be quite on par with Oasis but I could be wrong….

You've no idea how stupid I feel for going to see Oasis instead of this. I wasted my money on a biblical night when I could have spent it on a crap one.

#SadTimes

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/11/2025 09:57

I was wondering how, when mainstream acts realise they are participating in and supporting an anti women/anti women's rights movement seeking to remove women's rights in law and for men to use non consenting women's bodies, they might think twice about the optics and their future. As obviously anyone remotely sane would.

But of course, the nutjobbery is already starting, and it will self destruct anyway. As usual.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/11/2025 09:58

fromorbit · 30/11/2025 06:48

TAs complaining that sensible people have noted the concert and are commentating on it. Note we have a great thread laughing at the concert, but we are not trying to ban it.

Jill Foster

No one is banning the concert. No one is throwing urine at the concert. No one will be standing outside the concert spitting invective at concert-goers. Do you understand the difference?
https://nitter.net/JournalistJill/status/1994814936607068513

Er, it's not 'you can't hold a concert' it's pointing out the somewhat many potential and inevitable isses and taking the mickey because frankly who could resist . I think most of us would fully applaud this taking place, it will be fantastically helpful. Probably not in the way the organisers would like though.

I am working hard on preventing myself helpfully suggesting songs to perform on the night. I can think of so many that would be appropriate.

Chersfrozenface · 30/11/2025 10:00

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/11/2025 09:58

Er, it's not 'you can't hold a concert' it's pointing out the somewhat many potential and inevitable isses and taking the mickey because frankly who could resist . I think most of us would fully applaud this taking place, it will be fantastically helpful. Probably not in the way the organisers would like though.

I am working hard on preventing myself helpfully suggesting songs to perform on the night. I can think of so many that would be appropriate.

Edited

Oh, go on, give us a set list!

SabrinaThwaite · 30/11/2025 10:04

It would be a missed opportunity if there wasn’t at least a cover of Shania Twain’s Man! I Feel Like A Woman!

DrBlackbird · 30/11/2025 10:06

plantcomplex · 29/11/2025 20:59

Stock really nailed it when she said these people are morons.

This cannot be said enough.

I am so sick of moronic statements being made repeatedly. Not just in gender ideology (though it has the most examples) but both Left and Right have collectively lost the ability to logically work through problematic issues and are relying on sweeping meaningless statements.

We’re meant to help students develop critical thinking but if our political, healthcare, and educational leaders are seemingly incapable of logic and reasoning, what hope for students?

weegielass · 30/11/2025 10:09

Curious to know how the venue plan to manage the toilet situation.

DrBlackbird · 30/11/2025 10:11

fromorbit · 30/11/2025 06:48

TAs complaining that sensible people have noted the concert and are commentating on it. Note we have a great thread laughing at the concert, but we are not trying to ban it.

Jill Foster

No one is banning the concert. No one is throwing urine at the concert. No one will be standing outside the concert spitting invective at concert-goers. Do you understand the difference?
https://nitter.net/JournalistJill/status/1994814936607068513

This is a good point. Oh the irony.

Can you just imagine what would happen if, for example, FWS tried to host a concert supporting women’s rights? The ferocious and aggressive response by men (and some Handmaids) would be overwhelming.

Swamphag · 30/11/2025 10:19

SabrinaThwaite · 30/11/2025 10:04

It would be a missed opportunity if there wasn’t at least a cover of Shania Twain’s Man! I Feel Like A Woman!

"It's a Man's Man's Man's World" by James Brown (appropriately enough, an abusive male)

lcakethereforeIam · 30/11/2025 10:23

DrBlackbird · 30/11/2025 10:11

This is a good point. Oh the irony.

Can you just imagine what would happen if, for example, FWS tried to host a concert supporting women’s rights? The ferocious and aggressive response by men (and some Handmaids) would be overwhelming.

Just putting a book in a library made them lose their shit.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/11/2025 10:27

Goodbye Sam, Hello Samantha - Cliff Richard originally.

https: //youtu.be/OuakkRPQeeU?si=sVBrij_wCUQkMeMz

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