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"All star charity concert for trans rights"

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FuriousAndFrustrated · 28/11/2025 15:15

Spotted on the Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/nov/28/sugababes-sophie-ellis-bextor-wolf-alice-and-more-to-play-all-star-charity-concert-for-trans-rights

Raising money for the kimono-clad fox-killer's "Good" Law Project.

Definitely one to avoid!

Sugababes, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Wolf Alice and more to play all-star charity concert for trans rights

Organised by Olly Alexander and the Mighty Hoopla festival to ‘fight back against the politics of fear and exclusion’, Trans Mission will take place at Wembley Arena in March

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/nov/28/sugababes-sophie-ellis-bextor-wolf-alice-and-more-to-play-all-star-charity-concert-for-trans-rights

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fromorbit · 29/11/2025 01:54

Hopefully GLP will divert the funds into more doomed legal cases.

NotBadConsidering · 29/11/2025 02:25

A concert for women’s rights would be much more fun.

Róisín Murphy to headline.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/11/2025 04:05

Is it odd that they don't style him as Sir Ian McKellen? And the flyer doesn't say Actor, Ian McKellen.

Maybe it's some other Ian McKellen.
Ventriloquist, Ian McKellen? Or illusionist, Ian McKellen? Pub singer, Ian McKellen
Drag burlesque dancer, Ian McKellen?
I'm reaching here, aren't I?
Oh Gandalf. Why? 😪

BlueEyedBogWitch · 29/11/2025 04:09

Gutted to see Wolf Alice on there. I’m off to see them next week and I’m a bit put off now.

Gettingmadderallthetime · 29/11/2025 05:57

MowingMachine · 28/11/2025 19:03

We all know why the Grift Law Project isn't a charity. It's because if it were, there would be a lot more oversight of its finances 😐

They would have to have process and policies in place to demonstrate that there is no conflict of interest. They would need aims which were public and abide by them. No deciding on the whim of the founder. No using money with no regard to whether the supplier was a good choice fiscally. No grifting. Or else complaints could be made.

Swamphag · 29/11/2025 06:51

lcakethereforeIam · 28/11/2025 20:53

I'm seriously waiting for when it's my turn to be a Sugarbabe. Everyone else seems to have had a go ☹️

I always think that's a good way of explaining a gap in your CV. No one will ever know whether it's true or not and who's going to trawl through The Sugababes archive to find out? It could take weeks.

EyesOpening · 29/11/2025 08:52

Mawaan Rizwan, who is on the bill as an "appearance", was on a version of Big Fat Quiz Of and he was paired up with Rosy Jones, they're both gay and both mentioned how they only like 🍆 and 🐈 respectively. Almost like they forget what they're supposed to believe, just like a lot of them.
TRAs in the streets, TERFs in the sheets and all that.

EyesOpening · 29/11/2025 08:53

EyesOpening · 28/11/2025 20:31

She was a judge on some music programme called Starstruck (think Stars In Their Eyes) along with Adam Lambert and Jason Manford, and she and the other judges kept using "they" about someone, think it was Adam Smith.

She was interviewed and said this:
How does she see the current battle for trans rights? “Oh that’s easy,” she says. “Trans women are women. Trans men are men. Human beings are human beings. The end, full stop. I think the moral panic that exists right now is a confection. It is red meat to a particular section of the electorate. They said the same thing years ago about gay people.”

Sam Smith, I mean (stupid fat fingers and autocorrect)

fromorbit · 29/11/2025 08:59

Beneficiaries: All proceeds will support the Good Law Project and Not A Phase, a trans-led charity.

We all know GLP an increase in funding for them is not a bad thing for reality based people at all. GLP's incompetence an failed legal cases is hugely beneficial for our side and much of funds raised will be mostly sidelined off to pay wages in the organisation without results.

Not A Phase are a trans charity with a focus on fundraising in the arts/culture industry and celebrity contacts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_a_Phase

How dangerous is it? Well a look at the accounts is interesting.

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/5171832/charity-overview?_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_organisationNumber=5171832

Its employees include:;

  • Danielle St James: As the Chief Executive, she founded the charity in 2020 and is heavily involved in its day-to-day operations and external work with organizations to improve trans+ inclusion.
  • Hayden Millar: Works as a Design Manager and Technical Manager for the charity.
  • Ki Griffin: Contributes as a Multidisciplinary Performer and Creative.
  • Georgey Lee: Serves as a Senior Designer.

Its activities mostly involve workshops and events and more fundraising.

The charity provides services like peer support workshops, community events, and resources to enhance wellbeing, build skills, and foster creativity. It also supports trans-owned businesses and aims to challenge stigma and create a more inclusive society.

I think it is mostly a grift which is not interested in actually changing much, but is focused on validating those employed etc. There are a huge number of rival trans led organisations all fulfilling the same mission which is not to achieve political/legal change, but to keep members paid and to raise more funds. This ties into the wider capitalist nature of trans activism as part of the NGO world. Failure is useful because you get to raise more funds.

The crossover with the Greens is potentially the most significant part of this concert I think.

Not a Phase - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_a_Phase

ItsCoolForCats · 29/11/2025 09:52

Hopefully the GLP will have lost a couple more cases by the time this fundraiser happens.

I wonder if the organisers have looked into them at all, beyond Jolyon's statements about how fantastic they are? I agree that it only helps our cause for TRAs to keep throwing money at the GLP.

MarieDeGournay · 29/11/2025 10:07

They should rename it 'All Star Charity Concert for Trans Privileges', since they already have the same rights as anyone else...
doesn't have quite the same ring, does it?

FKAT · 29/11/2025 10:53

This is quite a boring post but I work in live music (albeit a very different sector) and am puzzled by the economics of it. I'm struggling to understand how they will break even never mind raise money for charity.

Most charity concerts generate their revenue from broadcast sales and building a wider fundraising campaign around that so you aren't making money from the concert goers but the people watching at home. I can't see how this will get a very big fee for streaming/broadcast rights. All those artists will be doing the festival circuit and touring - there's nothing exclusive or exciting about the line-up - people can see them very easily. They will have to create specific merch - and who will be paying £30 for a tshirt for a one-off gig with a lot of random artists who have very different audiences?

Even assuming that they sell out every seat in the arena at around £100 a ticket, that's £1.25M. Even if artists work for free I simply cannot see the costs of putting on that concert at sub £1m - Wembley hire costs, security, insurance, venue staffing, technical and production costs, organisation, artist travel and expenses, publicity and marketing and other fees. It's a complex gig - every artist will need different lighting, logistics, sound set up which adds cost to prep and rehearsal time. Wembley will make a nice packet out of all those £10 pints and pre-concert meals and as a north Londoner I approve of that.

Of course, after Manchester Pride going bankrupt and the general murky arrangements of GLP I am completely unsurprised that the financial organisation may not be the most robust. It may be, who knows, maybe they'll get the BFI (taxpayers) to stump up £1M to make a concert film like they did with Kneecap.

Iamnotalemming · 29/11/2025 10:56

FKAT · 29/11/2025 10:53

This is quite a boring post but I work in live music (albeit a very different sector) and am puzzled by the economics of it. I'm struggling to understand how they will break even never mind raise money for charity.

Most charity concerts generate their revenue from broadcast sales and building a wider fundraising campaign around that so you aren't making money from the concert goers but the people watching at home. I can't see how this will get a very big fee for streaming/broadcast rights. All those artists will be doing the festival circuit and touring - there's nothing exclusive or exciting about the line-up - people can see them very easily. They will have to create specific merch - and who will be paying £30 for a tshirt for a one-off gig with a lot of random artists who have very different audiences?

Even assuming that they sell out every seat in the arena at around £100 a ticket, that's £1.25M. Even if artists work for free I simply cannot see the costs of putting on that concert at sub £1m - Wembley hire costs, security, insurance, venue staffing, technical and production costs, organisation, artist travel and expenses, publicity and marketing and other fees. It's a complex gig - every artist will need different lighting, logistics, sound set up which adds cost to prep and rehearsal time. Wembley will make a nice packet out of all those £10 pints and pre-concert meals and as a north Londoner I approve of that.

Of course, after Manchester Pride going bankrupt and the general murky arrangements of GLP I am completely unsurprised that the financial organisation may not be the most robust. It may be, who knows, maybe they'll get the BFI (taxpayers) to stump up £1M to make a concert film like they did with Kneecap.

This is what I was wondering about. The maths doesn't work does it.

roseyposey · 29/11/2025 10:57

They could at least do us and the world a huge courtesy by answering the burning question that every poster on this board asks herself: what are “trans rights”? If you’re singing in aid of them you should be able to define them, no?

soupycustard · 29/11/2025 11:02

roseyposey · 29/11/2025 10:57

They could at least do us and the world a huge courtesy by answering the burning question that every poster on this board asks herself: what are “trans rights”? If you’re singing in aid of them you should be able to define them, no?

Yep. I bore myself repeating the question on threads where the TRA visitors have popped up. But I have never seen it answered.

FKAT · 29/11/2025 11:03

I just seen the organisers are Mighty Hoopla who are behind the controversial Brockwell Park Festival so I am ordering in the popcorn in advance as this will go tits up similarly.
https://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2025/05/high-court-ruling-puts-brockwell-park-festivals-in-jeopardy-after-finding-lambeth-council-acted-unlawfully/

roseyposey · 29/11/2025 11:14

soupycustard · 29/11/2025 11:02

Yep. I bore myself repeating the question on threads where the TRA visitors have popped up. But I have never seen it answered.

Me neither. Strange isn’t it? 🙄

Chersfrozenface · 29/11/2025 11:17

On the current website there's the list of performers etc, sections on tickets and "About" - and a "Donate" section

https://www.transmissionlive.uk/

Maybe the organisers know the event won't make money. Maybe they just want whatever publicity they can get and hope to get loads of donations. Or maybe they're incompetent.

Mighty Hoopla's accounts are available here.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10573560/filing-history

EyesOpening · 29/11/2025 11:20

fromorbit · 29/11/2025 08:59

Beneficiaries: All proceeds will support the Good Law Project and Not A Phase, a trans-led charity.

We all know GLP an increase in funding for them is not a bad thing for reality based people at all. GLP's incompetence an failed legal cases is hugely beneficial for our side and much of funds raised will be mostly sidelined off to pay wages in the organisation without results.

Not A Phase are a trans charity with a focus on fundraising in the arts/culture industry and celebrity contacts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_a_Phase

How dangerous is it? Well a look at the accounts is interesting.

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/5171832/charity-overview?_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_organisationNumber=5171832

Its employees include:;

  • Danielle St James: As the Chief Executive, she founded the charity in 2020 and is heavily involved in its day-to-day operations and external work with organizations to improve trans+ inclusion.
  • Hayden Millar: Works as a Design Manager and Technical Manager for the charity.
  • Ki Griffin: Contributes as a Multidisciplinary Performer and Creative.
  • Georgey Lee: Serves as a Senior Designer.

Its activities mostly involve workshops and events and more fundraising.

The charity provides services like peer support workshops, community events, and resources to enhance wellbeing, build skills, and foster creativity. It also supports trans-owned businesses and aims to challenge stigma and create a more inclusive society.

I think it is mostly a grift which is not interested in actually changing much, but is focused on validating those employed etc. There are a huge number of rival trans led organisations all fulfilling the same mission which is not to achieve political/legal change, but to keep members paid and to raise more funds. This ties into the wider capitalist nature of trans activism as part of the NGO world. Failure is useful because you get to raise more funds.

The crossover with the Greens is potentially the most significant part of this concert I think.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-62430647

Dani St James

LGBTQ: Trans woman hopes underwear line will aid safety

Growing up as a trans woman, Dani found there were no safe options to help in terms of underwear.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-62430647

FKAT · 29/11/2025 11:30

Chersfrozenface · 29/11/2025 11:17

On the current website there's the list of performers etc, sections on tickets and "About" - and a "Donate" section

https://www.transmissionlive.uk/

Maybe the organisers know the event won't make money. Maybe they just want whatever publicity they can get and hope to get loads of donations. Or maybe they're incompetent.

Mighty Hoopla's accounts are available here.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10573560/filing-history

Yes, it's perfectly reasonable they see this as a publicity tactic rather than a revenue generating one. The risk-reward ratio is extremely high though. Their target audience isn't one with deep pockets.

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 11:33

FKAT · 29/11/2025 10:53

This is quite a boring post but I work in live music (albeit a very different sector) and am puzzled by the economics of it. I'm struggling to understand how they will break even never mind raise money for charity.

Most charity concerts generate their revenue from broadcast sales and building a wider fundraising campaign around that so you aren't making money from the concert goers but the people watching at home. I can't see how this will get a very big fee for streaming/broadcast rights. All those artists will be doing the festival circuit and touring - there's nothing exclusive or exciting about the line-up - people can see them very easily. They will have to create specific merch - and who will be paying £30 for a tshirt for a one-off gig with a lot of random artists who have very different audiences?

Even assuming that they sell out every seat in the arena at around £100 a ticket, that's £1.25M. Even if artists work for free I simply cannot see the costs of putting on that concert at sub £1m - Wembley hire costs, security, insurance, venue staffing, technical and production costs, organisation, artist travel and expenses, publicity and marketing and other fees. It's a complex gig - every artist will need different lighting, logistics, sound set up which adds cost to prep and rehearsal time. Wembley will make a nice packet out of all those £10 pints and pre-concert meals and as a north Londoner I approve of that.

Of course, after Manchester Pride going bankrupt and the general murky arrangements of GLP I am completely unsurprised that the financial organisation may not be the most robust. It may be, who knows, maybe they'll get the BFI (taxpayers) to stump up £1M to make a concert film like they did with Kneecap.

The artists won't get a cut and are performing for free?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/11/2025 11:38

FKAT · 29/11/2025 11:30

Yes, it's perfectly reasonable they see this as a publicity tactic rather than a revenue generating one. The risk-reward ratio is extremely high though. Their target audience isn't one with deep pockets.

plus of course even if they have pull it, it will be blamed on TERFS making them feel "unsafe" and "transphobia". It's a win all round innit

personally id love to hear the artists performing explain what rights trans ppl don't have and if they think all sex segregated Spaces should be abolished eg men in women's prisons, men in women's rugby, men in women's rape support groups.

i expect they've given the reality of what wailing out TWAW actually means less than a nano
seconds thought

Chersfrozenface · 29/11/2025 11:43

Their target audience isn't one with deep pockets.

The GLP reckons its "Fighting fund for trans rights" has raised £148,154.65 of its £150,000 target - that's since it was launched in mid April this year.

Evidently nothing like enough for Jolyon and the Good Laugh Project.

MowingMachine · 29/11/2025 11:51

RedToothBrush · 29/11/2025 11:33

The artists won't get a cut and are performing for free?

That excellent post by @FKAT has factored that in. And, of course, if you're down to do something for free, and then a paying gig comes up, which one do you do...

I've seen some posts on BlueSky about Hoopla. Looks like they're not pure enough for the omnicause. I predict this "concert" is going to be a disaster.

don't want to shit on the Trans Mission concert but if Mighty Hoopla are involved then it probably has money from KKR, which is on the BDS avoid list. would be really good to have this cleared up before people get excited.

https://bsky.app/profile/hexadecibelle.fyi/post/3m6p2efbytk2q

Courtney Love Actually (@hexadecibelle.fyi)

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https://bsky.app/profile/hexadecibelle.fyi/post/3m6p2efbytk2q

Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/11/2025 11:52

Chersfrozenface · 29/11/2025 11:43

Their target audience isn't one with deep pockets.

The GLP reckons its "Fighting fund for trans rights" has raised £148,154.65 of its £150,000 target - that's since it was launched in mid April this year.

Evidently nothing like enough for Jolyon and the Good Laugh Project.

Yep! there are tons of beee kiiiind middle class clueless professionals happily chucking money at JM. You've only got to spend anytime on Bluesky to see that

I'm certain it will sell out - oh and the bbc will probably screen it too

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